> I've also noticed sales are there to bullshit their way to getting somebody who isn't sure to buy something you're selling. This is true to the same degree t

> I've also noticed sales are there to bullshit their way to getting somebody who isn't sure to buy something you're selling. This is true to the same degree that "engineering are there to take something that works and reinvent it in a shitty flavour-of-the-month framework that guarantees them extra work by breaking every day" Sure, some of them make their entire living from doing that, some of them aren't above doing that when it'll work for them, but most of them do other things. Also companies employ salespeople because (i) not everybody in the world knows every product they could ever want to buy exists and (ii) most people outside HN don't assume that nobody could ever answer their "does the product do this" questions (never mind make a useful suggestion of something they hadn't considered) or want to figure it out from first principles by reading the tech specs.