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I know people that claim to live from sunlight alone. Your point is meaningless

by go_elmo 3y ago

edgyquant 3y ago
His claim at least isn’t a blatant lie while yours clearly is
- go_elmo 3y ago
  So youre saying its not disproven that autism cannot be cured, hm interesting. Then you surely must also think that conversion therapy can work, many people there report it worked for them too, didnt they? And I did not lie. There are people who claim that. That they die weeks later is another part of the story. Point Im wanting to make: claims dont prove anything.
- nemo 3y ago
  >His claim at least isn’t a blatant lie while yours clearly is Let's see what Tao Lin has to say for himself about being "cured": >Through nutrition, detoxification, exercise, writing (and other autism-friendly forms of self-expression), reading (allowing me to alleviate loneliness in private, without distress), cannabis, change-catalyzing psychedelics, meditation, and practice, I’ve become much less autistic since high school and college. I estimate I now range from 30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers, depending on the hour, day, week, and month; every symptom varies, I’ve learned, depending on sleep, situation, inflammation levels, cultural consumption, mindset, and hundreds of other factors. see: https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/xl952r/tao_lin_claims_to_have_cured_his_autism/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/xl952r/tao_lin... Note he didn't say he was cured at all, he said he's "30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers," and also said that a lot of his treatment wasn't dietary. You might want to reflect on this a while. You introduced the idea of "lying" which isn't a generous way to interact with anyone. I'd suggest you consider giving others more of the benefit of the doubt. You're very wrong on multiple levels here, but I would never accuse you of lying, I believe you were just mistaken. I'd also suggest you spend a while doing more investigation into the claim that there's a "cure" for autism. No experts believe this, and the reason is because not only is there no reason to believe such an thing exists (and no evidence), but the idea of a "cure" probably fundamentally misunderstands what autism is to the best of our current knowledge.
  - go_elmo 3y ago
    Thanks a lot for supporting the current state of art research on the field. Imagine the horrors of not being taken seriously, people saying we need to be cured - i cannot not compare it to conversion therapies for lgbtq+. There are actually institutions promoting this, called ABA therapies. We need people like you to thrive as part of this society, thanks a lot! :D
    - nemo 3y ago
      True, that ABA "treatment" is utterly pernicious. Framing autism as an illness that needs to be treated or cured is problematic. Human neurodiversity is a broad spectrum with a great deal diversity, and talking about a "cure" pathologizes that which is not only wrong-headed, but can be incredibly harmful in practice as ABA therapy illustrates.
- packet_nerd 3y ago
  People who practice Breatharianism claim to live without food and get sustenance from various mystical sources, including sunshine (they either don't live very long or else are frauds and do secretly eat). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia To me it seems uncalled for to accuse go_elmo of lying about knowing some of these people.

I know people that claim to live from sunlight alone. Your point is meaningless

edgyquant 3y ago

His claim at least isn’t a blatant lie while yours clearly is

go_elmo 3y ago
So youre saying its not disproven that autism cannot be cured, hm interesting. Then you surely must also think that conversion therapy can work, many people there report it worked for them too, didnt they? And I did not lie. There are people who claim that. That they die weeks later is another part of the story. Point Im wanting to make: claims dont prove anything.
nemo 3y ago
>His claim at least isn’t a blatant lie while yours clearly is Let's see what Tao Lin has to say for himself about being "cured": >Through nutrition, detoxification, exercise, writing (and other autism-friendly forms of self-expression), reading (allowing me to alleviate loneliness in private, without distress), cannabis, change-catalyzing psychedelics, meditation, and practice, I’ve become much less autistic since high school and college. I estimate I now range from 30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers, depending on the hour, day, week, and month; every symptom varies, I’ve learned, depending on sleep, situation, inflammation levels, cultural consumption, mindset, and hundreds of other factors. see: https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/xl952r/tao_lin_claims_to_have_cured_his_autism/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/xl952r/tao_lin... Note he didn't say he was cured at all, he said he's "30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers," and also said that a lot of his treatment wasn't dietary. You might want to reflect on this a while. You introduced the idea of "lying" which isn't a generous way to interact with anyone. I'd suggest you consider giving others more of the benefit of the doubt. You're very wrong on multiple levels here, but I would never accuse you of lying, I believe you were just mistaken. I'd also suggest you spend a while doing more investigation into the claim that there's a "cure" for autism. No experts believe this, and the reason is because not only is there no reason to believe such an thing exists (and no evidence), but the idea of a "cure" probably fundamentally misunderstands what autism is to the best of our current knowledge.
- go_elmo 3y ago
  Thanks a lot for supporting the current state of art research on the field. Imagine the horrors of not being taken seriously, people saying we need to be cured - i cannot not compare it to conversion therapies for lgbtq+. There are actually institutions promoting this, called ABA therapies. We need people like you to thrive as part of this society, thanks a lot! :D
  - nemo 3y ago
    True, that ABA "treatment" is utterly pernicious. Framing autism as an illness that needs to be treated or cured is problematic. Human neurodiversity is a broad spectrum with a great deal diversity, and talking about a "cure" pathologizes that which is not only wrong-headed, but can be incredibly harmful in practice as ABA therapy illustrates.
packet_nerd 3y ago
People who practice Breatharianism claim to live without food and get sustenance from various mystical sources, including sunshine (they either don't live very long or else are frauds and do secretly eat). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia To me it seems uncalled for to accuse go_elmo of lying about knowing some of these people.