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Doesn't it require a surgical procedure? I meant it's extreme in contrast to something more mundane like diet augmentation.

by kypro 3y ago

jakear 3y ago
Not at all. You just swallow fecal matter. Usually in a pill.
jamiek88 3y ago
No. You eat a shit pellet. That’s it. It’s mainly used with c diff people who have had their gut micro biome wiped out by treatment.
Ygg2 3y ago
Not really. Usually it's inserted in your colon. It's no more invasive than colonoscopy.
- nomel 3y ago
  Correct. A colonoscopy is not a surgical procedure: https://mackinawsurgerycenter.com/colon-rectal/colorectal-cancer-screening-endoscopy-vs-colonoscopy/ https://mackinawsurgerycenter.com/colon-rectal/colorectal-ca... > Technically, a colonoscopy is a type of endoscopy. An endoscopy is a nonsurgical procedure
  - Ygg2 3y ago
    There is a pill form, but I'm wondering how will those bacteria survive the acid? Also it can be done via nasal/oral tube to the guts.
    - nomel 3y ago
      > but I'm wondering how will those bacteria survive the acid? They don't release in the stomach [1]: > The oral capsule tested in this study was specifically designed to open and release its content at the end of human small intestine only. There are many pills that release at different points, and speeds, through the digestion. This is why some pills are labelled "do not cut". See enteric coating [2]. [1] At least the early ones didn't. I doubt there would be a point in putting fecal matter in the stomach. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7918368/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7918368/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_coating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_coating
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nomel 3y ago
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/fecal-transplant#:~:text=Fecal%20transplantation%20is%20usually%20performed,is%20deposited%20into%20the%20colon https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-t... > Fecal transplantation is usually performed by colonoscopy. A gastroenterologist guides the colonoscope through the entire length of the colon, and, as it is withdrawn, the solution containing donor feces is deposited into the colon. > Less commonly, the transplant is delivered through a tube inserted through the nose that reaches into the duodenum, the area where the stomach connects with the small intestine. This method does not require bowel prep, but is associated with a higher risk of side effects such as aspiration pneumonia. > Sometimes, FMT can be delivered by a capsule that you swallow or through an enema. tldr: tube inserted somewhere to deposit, pill, or enema.

Doesn't it require a surgical procedure? I meant it's extreme in contrast to something more mundane like diet augmentation.

by kypro 3y ago

Doesn't it require a surgical procedure? I meant it's extreme in contrast to something more mundane like diet augmentation.

jakear 3y ago

Not at all. You just swallow fecal matter. Usually in a pill.

jamiek88 3y ago

No. You eat a shit pellet. That’s it. It’s mainly used with c diff people who have had their gut micro biome wiped out by treatment.

Ygg2 3y ago

Not really. Usually it's inserted in your colon. It's no more invasive than colonoscopy.

nomel 3y ago
Correct. A colonoscopy is not a surgical procedure: https://mackinawsurgerycenter.com/colon-rectal/colorectal-cancer-screening-endoscopy-vs-colonoscopy/ https://mackinawsurgerycenter.com/colon-rectal/colorectal-ca... > Technically, a colonoscopy is a type of endoscopy. An endoscopy is a nonsurgical procedure
- Ygg2 3y ago
  There is a pill form, but I'm wondering how will those bacteria survive the acid? Also it can be done via nasal/oral tube to the guts.
  - nomel 3y ago
    > but I'm wondering how will those bacteria survive the acid? They don't release in the stomach [1]: > The oral capsule tested in this study was specifically designed to open and release its content at the end of human small intestine only. There are many pills that release at different points, and speeds, through the digestion. This is why some pills are labelled "do not cut". See enteric coating [2]. [1] At least the early ones didn't. I doubt there would be a point in putting fecal matter in the stomach. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7918368/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7918368/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_coating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_coating

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nomel 3y ago

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/fecal-transplant#:~:text=Fecal%20transplantation%20is%20usually%20performed,is%20deposited%20into%20the%20colon https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-t... > Fecal transplantation is usually performed by colonoscopy. A gastroenterologist guides the colonoscope through the entire length of the colon, and, as it is withdrawn, the solution containing donor feces is deposited into the colon. > Less commonly, the transplant is delivered through a tube inserted through the nose that reaches into the duodenum, the area where the stomach connects with the small intestine. This method does not require bowel prep, but is associated with a higher risk of side effects such as aspiration pneumonia. > Sometimes, FMT can be delivered by a capsule that you swallow or through an enema. tldr: tube inserted somewhere to deposit, pill, or enema.