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I was just thinking how Google made Android free to check Microsoft. This is Meta checking Google.

by zyang 3y ago

roody15 3y ago
Checking Google or OpenAI (or both?)
ipaddr 3y ago
Checking OpenAI. Google is still playing checkers.
- mcbuilder 3y ago
  I just can't get how bad Google is doing. They have a ton of top researchers, papers, money, just no good LLMs. It's like OpenAI was first to the punch, and everyone else just saw $$$. Meta was smart to go down this open source road, as the masses will start training their llamas one way or another. Personally I believe the "intelligence" aspect will asymptote, so even having exclusive access to a "super AI" (i.e. hypothetical 1T parameter model like a GPT5) won't be that much of a step behind the lesser AIs, and as soon as you grant access to the masses they will start to use some transfer learning to make their "lesser" models better. AI applications though still need a lot of work. The models are smart or general purpose enough to be useful to the average person out of the box.
  - rvnx 3y ago
    The problem also is that Google is making lot of grandiose announcements about tools and models that nobody can see nor use. This is a serious credibility problem in the long-term.
    - janalsncm 3y ago
      You can use some of them. They have an “AI powered” search (as if their previous search isn’t considered AI anymore). It’s an experiment you can turn on. For programming questions it’s not terrible. That said, there are a ton of “look at this cool thing out research team did” and then you never hear about them again things from Google. They even built a music generator that was closed to the public until recently. https://blog.google/technology/ai/musiclm-google-ai-test-kitchen/amp/ https://blog.google/technology/ai/musiclm-google-ai-test-kit...
- conductr 3y ago
  The fact you believe, rightly or wrongly, that meta is ahead of google on ai explains why meta would open source this. It’s a good reputation to maintain.

I was just thinking how Google made Android free to check Microsoft. This is Meta checking Google.

by zyang 3y ago

I was just thinking how Google made Android free to check Microsoft. This is Meta checking Google.

roody15 3y ago

Checking Google or OpenAI (or both?)

ipaddr 3y ago

Checking OpenAI. Google is still playing checkers.

mcbuilder 3y ago
I just can't get how bad Google is doing. They have a ton of top researchers, papers, money, just no good LLMs. It's like OpenAI was first to the punch, and everyone else just saw $$$. Meta was smart to go down this open source road, as the masses will start training their llamas one way or another. Personally I believe the "intelligence" aspect will asymptote, so even having exclusive access to a "super AI" (i.e. hypothetical 1T parameter model like a GPT5) won't be that much of a step behind the lesser AIs, and as soon as you grant access to the masses they will start to use some transfer learning to make their "lesser" models better. AI applications though still need a lot of work. The models are smart or general purpose enough to be useful to the average person out of the box.
- rvnx 3y ago
  The problem also is that Google is making lot of grandiose announcements about tools and models that nobody can see nor use. This is a serious credibility problem in the long-term.
  - janalsncm 3y ago
    You can use some of them. They have an “AI powered” search (as if their previous search isn’t considered AI anymore). It’s an experiment you can turn on. For programming questions it’s not terrible. That said, there are a ton of “look at this cool thing out research team did” and then you never hear about them again things from Google. They even built a music generator that was closed to the public until recently. https://blog.google/technology/ai/musiclm-google-ai-test-kitchen/amp/ https://blog.google/technology/ai/musiclm-google-ai-test-kit...
conductr 3y ago
The fact you believe, rightly or wrongly, that meta is ahead of google on ai explains why meta would open source this. It’s a good reputation to maintain.