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This study [1] in the top post [2] says it's 90% men. [1] http://ijfs.padovauniversitypress.it/system/files/papers/IJFS-2016-1-4.pdf http://ijfs.padovauniversi
by whstl 3y ago
This study [1] in the top post [2] says it's 90% men.
[1] http://ijfs.padovauniversitypress.it/system/files/papers/IJFS-2016-1-4.pdf http://ijfs.padovauniversitypress.it/system/files/papers/IJF...
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971969
- EatingWithForks 3y agoThat study is much older, though. 2016. This recent government study was reported on in 2023. That 90% quote actually references an even older study, 2008! It could be possible that studies on NEET people were themselves biased in 2008 in a way that future surveys have resolved. Otherwise it might indicate there's a huge wave of women withdrawing from society over the past decade or so, which is a holy fuck situation.
- Brusco_RF 3y agoYou correctly point out that the 2016 study might be flawed, but you don't seem to consider the same of the newer study. Why?
- EatingWithForks 3y agoI like newer data than older data, especially since the 2016 study is actually referencing a 2008 study. If we assume they're both true then we shouldn't be talking about men at all, and exclusively focus on the rapid retreat of women from society!
- Brusco_RF 3y agoI actually have less faith in social scientists to design an unbiased study on a sensitive topic in 2023 than I did in 2008. That was my only point