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The goal of a university degree is not to get a job. It's to create a person who is well rounded enough to drop into almost any field but very specialized in on
by zer8k 3y ago
The goal of a university degree is not to get a job. It's to create a person who is well rounded enough to drop into almost any field but very specialized in one field. Universities becoming trade schools is the reason bloated administrative staff exists.
As for your particular example that is also what I've heard. Except that the BSc is more business-oriented (not humanities). That being said, if you think something like nursing could be a vocation degree I don't think you understand how much even nursing relies on Chemistry, Biology, and Math. My nurse friends are regularly in charge of compounding drugs before administration for example. Loosening requirements will not stop the nursing shortage because it's caused by the same thing the doctor shortage is caused by. Long, thankless hours, low pay, high stress, and the nurses unions keeping headcounts in check. On one hand dumping the nurses union will likely see pay rise. On the other hand the unions are often the only reason nurse/patient ratios are kept inside of safe bounds.
The division you're talking about is why in CS they offer an ASc, BA, and BSc. You can pick just how deep you wish to go. Most people get a BSc because it's the most flexible. What people do not understand is pedigree matters very little. I paid ~$25,000 all-in for my CS degree from a decent (top 50) school. I am just as good as the MIT kids I work with through the magic of ABET accreditation enforcing a standard. Standards are good for everyone and people should be excluded from just calling themselves something.
- Eumenes 3y ago> That being said, if you think something like nursing could be a vocation degree I don't think you understand how much even nursing relies on Chemistry, Biology, and Math. Yes, for sure, but all of those classes are taken in the first two years, alongside clinical rotations. The remaining 2 years are almost exclusively NOT focused on hands on nursing/science/math/pharmacology related subjects. They are usually focused on healthcare policy and the soft science behind healthcare, which imo, can be learned on the job thru employer workshops/classes. That's why they let nurses practice with an Associates, because they've done their clinical rotations and stem focused classes to preform the job of RN. If you cut out the pre-reqs and fluff classes, its pretty much a vocational degree. If we want to talk about social mobility, enabling people to earn wealth faster, is a good way.
- zer8k 3y agoNot sure why I am being downvoted. So I won't answer any further because the HN morons are apparently ravenous this morning.