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> Again, the argument is that _without_ shame and a shared social contract, the replacement by explicit state authority to moderate harmful behaviors drifts tow
by goodpoint 3y ago
> Again, the argument is that _without_ shame and a shared social contract, the replacement by explicit state authority to moderate harmful behaviors drifts towards fascism.
The argument is plain wrong. Fascism and nazism were driven by fear and shame from day one. You can find transcriptions from early talks from the dictators and others.
- grncdr 3y agoSure, I’m not trying to make the argument of the OP, just clarify it because I do think it warrants consideration. Regarding the role of shame in the rise of fascism (and the NSDAP). I agree it played a role, but I would characterize that as an (all too successful) exploit of human psychology. My opinion is that “shame” as a basic human emotion does perform an important function in our social fabric, and trying to inoculate ourselves against it en masse is not without its downsides.
- goodpoint 3y agoYou opinion goes against modern science: psychology, pedagogy and sociology agree that positive feedback is much more effective than negative and it's healthier in the long run.