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Can we start calling "evangelism" "sales" again, by the way? Someone who calls themselves an "evangelist" is a salesperson, or someone who studied theology.
by huijzer 3y ago
Can we start calling "evangelism" "sales" again, by the way? Someone who calls themselves an "evangelist" is a salesperson, or someone who studied theology.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> Someone who calls themselves an "evangelist" is a salesperson, or someone who studied theology. While both come from religion, an evangelist is not the same thing as a theologian.
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- wumms 3y ago> evangelist - religion: a person who tries to persuade people to become Christians, often by travelling around and organizing religious meetings - opinions: someone who often talks about how good they think something is, and tries to persuade you to have the same opinion - religion: one of the writers of the four books in the Bible about Jesus Christ https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/englisch/evangelist https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/englisch/evan...
- darkclouds 3y agoAnd yet they omit Lawyers in front of juries and Lexicographers writing the next edition of a dictionary. Is there any logic to this exceptional world?
- hgsgm 3y agoYes, but it's fuzzy.
- darkclouds 3y agoThat asserts that the degrees of truth in fuzzy logic relates to paths and that asserts paths are fixed. A form of lazy computing when resources are finite for a reason, and nullifies the existence of quantum physics.
- pessimizer 3y agoPeople who are paid to have an opinion don't count.
- monooso 3y agoFor me, at least, sales implies a commercial offering. You could argue that "sales" just means "I'm trying to sell you on (using|supporting|believing in) this thing", but I think evangelism is a more suitable term in a non-commercial context.
- phkahler 3y agoEvangelists are selling themselves while promoting something.
- detourdog 3y agoMy perspective Guy Kawasaki was the first tech exec. with that title at Apple. His job was to figure out what different groups of users were doing and what they needed. This was instrumental in developing desktop publishing industry. I agree the term is dated and should be retired.
- mlok 3y agoNot the same things : Sales goal is to get listener's money. Evangelism goal is to convert listeners into new supporters / enthusiasts.
- hutzlibu 3y ago"Evangelism goal is to convert listeners into new supporters / enthusiasts." And they buy things. But I agree that marketing would be a better term in many cases.
- Brian_K_White 3y agoI evangelize the concepts of open source and avoiding giving up your data. Meaning any time I think it's topical and not annoying, I spout the opinions and the reasons for them. As far as I can tell I have no "buy things" motivation. I am not trying to get my sister in law to hire me to install and maintain an asterisk phone system or an instance of nextcloud or add a custom feature to vlc etc. Nor do I do those things in general where I would benefit indirectly if more people wanted those services generally.
- nickserv 3y agoThere's a difference between someone who genuinely believes what they are evangelizing, and paying marketing people to spread some corporate opinion. The OP is referring to the second type I think. Of course the two are not mutually exclusive, you could have an evangelist job for an open source company selling data protection software/services for example.
- bjornasm 3y agoIts the same things, they are just selling the concept and the product, not just the product.
- inopinatus 3y agoSoftware theologians are called “architects”.
- mikrl 3y agoWhat, you don’t want to spread the good word of our lord and saviour… software???