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> You are saying that you don't like democracy then "Democracy" says nothing about ensuring every single vote counts equally. While I am inherently skeptical o

> You are saying that you don't like democracy then "Democracy" says nothing about ensuring every single vote counts equally. While I am inherently skeptical of systems that decide some votes are worth more than others, personally, the idea that my vote should count for more when I'm part of a smaller but younger demographic bracket and less when I'm older and part of a bigger bracket doesn't bother me too much. Whether it would actually produce a better result is almost impossible to know. > In my country, Italy, the far right is the preferred choice among people < 25 years old and women, while people over 65 have voted in majority for the left and are progressive. That's certainly quite interesting, and different from the pattern I'm aware of occurring elsewhere, and it would be fascinating to do a deeper dive into why that might be. It certainly suggests to me that whatever the "left" in your country is offering, younger voters are not seeing it as representing the policies they feel the country needs over the coming decades. Though I did just come across an article that suggested this trend is possibly because younger voters in Europe have no first-hand knowledge of how awful things became under far-right leaders in the early 20th century. Or perhaps because they've seen first hand that welfare-state-type policies associated with left have benefited older generations far more than themselves.

peoplefromibiza 3y ago
democracy is all about a way to organize communities where the people have some power to influence the government. we found that casting a vote is the best way to make that possible. In that system everyone is an island, everyone should think about their personal interest, because there are more differences intra-group than extra-group. If some demographic group is more numerous than others it also mean that that group will have statistically the most variations There are more poor old people, marginalized old people, frustrated old people and unhappy old people than younger ones. Most of all old people have literally no future, they have no time to recover from mistakes, they simply have gained enough experience to not risk everything for the sake of trying something new. Doesn't mean their interest do not align with the interests of younger generations, it's just that younger generations can afford to lose everything and come back from the consequences. One explanation of what is happening in my country is that the far right can sell themselves as outcasts that for a long time haven't participated in the decay we are experiencing and can look to the untrained and unexperienced eye as "revolutionaries' that fight against the establishment, while the people who have known them their whole life can see through the facade. But in the end the real problem is that last time the elections were won by a movement supported in majority by young people that wanted to flip tables and disrupt the status quo and, guess what, the elected members were such incompetents that 5 years later even the far right seemed a better option to many.

peoplefromibiza 3y ago

democracy is all about a way to organize communities where the people have some power to influence the government. we found that casting a vote is the best way to make that possible. In that system everyone is an island, everyone should think about their personal interest, because there are more differences intra-group than extra-group. If some demographic group is more numerous than others it also mean that that group will have statistically the most variations There are more poor old people, marginalized old people, frustrated old people and unhappy old people than younger ones. Most of all old people have literally no future, they have no time to recover from mistakes, they simply have gained enough experience to not risk everything for the sake of trying something new. Doesn't mean their interest do not align with the interests of younger generations, it's just that younger generations can afford to lose everything and come back from the consequences. One explanation of what is happening in my country is that the far right can sell themselves as outcasts that for a long time haven't participated in the decay we are experiencing and can look to the untrained and unexperienced eye as "revolutionaries' that fight against the establishment, while the people who have known them their whole life can see through the facade. But in the end the real problem is that last time the elections were won by a movement supported in majority by young people that wanted to flip tables and disrupt the status quo and, guess what, the elected members were such incompetents that 5 years later even the far right seemed a better option to many.