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Thank you for the insights > drivers who demand money when delivering food, beg for money, throw the food, decide to eat it - or otherwise ruin food deliveries

by j1elo 3y ago

Thank you for the insights > drivers who demand money when delivering food, beg for money, throw the food, decide to eat it - or otherwise ruin food deliveries because the tip was not high enough -there's been a lot Woah. That's so crazy that I'm not sure what to say. Clearly when the whole culture and wages are built on expecting and paying tips, the thing stops being a nice gesture for a good service (what I believe is the original concept of tipping) and becomes an unspecified but essential part of the actual price of things. My first thought was that where I live, services such as taxis and delivery have traditionally been tipped too, but tipping has always been something you do in person: you would ignore whatever app and give the actual rider a couple bucks. Notice the "a couple bucks": tipping here is I'd say hardly ever a function of the price, even in restaurants. Maybe 1 or 2 € per person on a run of the mill place, if the food and service have been good. Nowadays (during last decade) I feel maybe companies started to tell their employees to not ask for tips. It's been ages since a delivery guy stands in my door with a stare and an attitude clearly telling that they're waiting for a tip; they just leave your stuff, say thanks, and leave quickly without dragging the exchange a single second longer than needed.

stevenicr 3y ago
Sounds like the people in your area can make enough money without tips to afford basic expenses - that's the way it should be. In many places around here - waitress/waiter staff get paid $2.13 / hour with the expectation of decent tips.. in some cases a place will bump up your pay to $7.75 / hour if you didn't get enough tips (and many places have been caught stealing all or parts of tips for the managers or owners regularly) - When I drove with lyft a couple years ago, I tracked it and after gas / taxes it amounted to about $6 per hour (most people do not understand it that way, I still hear ignorant people claim 'I can make $100 a day with X' (If someone will just lend me money to fix my brakes) ) The so called living wage around here is more than $21/hr. So lots of people live in uncomfortable situations, have anxiety about no health care coverage or other safety nets. Another problem I see a lot in the US is jealousy of the class differences - all sorts of people have a skewed idea of what other people have and what they deserve - it's only gotten worse since the social justice 'mostly peaceful protests' - and the defund police / publicizing the corporate policies of not stopping shoplifters. That's all reinforcing this skewed thinking. It's a mess.

by j1elo 3y ago

stevenicr 3y ago

Sounds like the people in your area can make enough money without tips to afford basic expenses - that's the way it should be. In many places around here - waitress/waiter staff get paid $2.13 / hour with the expectation of decent tips.. in some cases a place will bump up your pay to $7.75 / hour if you didn't get enough tips (and many places have been caught stealing all or parts of tips for the managers or owners regularly) - When I drove with lyft a couple years ago, I tracked it and after gas / taxes it amounted to about $6 per hour (most people do not understand it that way, I still hear ignorant people claim 'I can make $100 a day with X' (If someone will just lend me money to fix my brakes) ) The so called living wage around here is more than $21/hr. So lots of people live in uncomfortable situations, have anxiety about no health care coverage or other safety nets. Another problem I see a lot in the US is jealousy of the class differences - all sorts of people have a skewed idea of what other people have and what they deserve - it's only gotten worse since the social justice 'mostly peaceful protests' - and the defund police / publicizing the corporate policies of not stopping shoplifters. That's all reinforcing this skewed thinking. It's a mess.