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I think we can all appreciate the flexibility of language when defining the word cult. But in practical terms was the Branch davidian the same as, say, the Morm
by mdanger007 3y ago
I think we can all appreciate the flexibility of language when defining the word cult. But in practical terms was the Branch davidian the same as, say, the Mormon church or your nan's knitting circle?
- sidlls 3y agoThe difference between Mormonism (or any other religion) and a cult is one of degree, not kind
- jwally 3y agoThe joke is the difference between a cult and a religion is 100 years.
- mdanger007 3y agoI like the definition: myths are religions people no longer believe in. Cults are far more exclusive and demanding of their members
- mdanger007 3y agoThat is not true. A defining characteristic of cults is a sense of imminite danger from government or status quo and a willingness to lay down ones life in defense of it. To say that is a few degrees off of what major religions think means your compass is waaay off!
- maxfurman 3y agoThis would have described the Mormon church not long ago. That's why they went to Utah!
- mdanger007 3y agoYou got a point: new religions are cult like but you got to agree that fleeing religious persecution and loading up stockpiles are also kinds, not degrees!
- voisin 3y ago> A defining characteristic of cults is a sense of imminite danger from government or status quo and a willingness to lay down ones life in defense of it. Is this actually a defining characteristic? I didn’t think cults were defined so narrowly. I understood cults to simply be highly insular groups with extreme views. Like the Flat Earth Society would a cult, though I don’t think they feel imminent danger or are willing to lay down their lives.
- mvncleaninst 3y agoWould disagree. Cults have some charismatic leader running the show, afaik the LDS (or regular organized religions more generally) aren't like this
- sidlls 3y agoThe priest (or equivalent) generally serves this role in kind, and for some sects degree. Religions include the same kind of inoculation with respect to belief, exclusion, and suspicion of outside influences that cults have: it’s just expressed differently (sometimes).
- stvltvs 3y agoJoseph Smith and Brigham Young were the charismatic cult leaders of Mormonism. Since their time, the mainstream Mormon Church headquartered in Salt Lake City has become less and less cultish and more bureaucratic, yet they still qualify as a cult according to the BITE model, and there are many Mormon splinter groups that are among the worst cults active today.
- pfannkuchen 3y agoThat must be quite the knitting circle (to count as an entire society).