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No, thats just diamagnetism not the meissner effect

by dtx1 3y ago

alchemist1e9 3y ago
Is there anything in these videos that is unique to meissner effect? in others words why can’t it be diamagnetism?
- dtx1 3y ago
  It looks (could be faked) like flux pinning is happening. Essentially, it's not moving but staying in place. Imagine trying to balance a magnet on another. It would not inherently stay in place.
- mitthrowaway2 3y ago
  It looks like that permanent magnet it's hovering over is a simple dipole magnet, rather than an array. A diamagnet would be unstable in that position. Look at any video of floating graphite and you'll see it hovering on top of a 2x2 array of magnets. Of course, you could fake it for a video by buying a special disc magnet with a multipolar magnetization pattern, but magnets like that are pretty hard to find.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    Putting a conspiracy cap on, is relatively easy to find a cover for an array that looks like a magnet
  - thetoon 3y ago
    > but magnets like that are pretty hard to find. Though, so far, room temperature superconductors have been even harder.
  - regularfry 3y ago
    If you already had a multipolar magnet for some reason, on the other hand, this wouldn't be too far fetched. You've got to think that with all the interest in this right now, the confluence of having access to a handy collection of peculiar magnets, knowing what to do with a bit of graphite, and being enough of a troll to publish a video, all in a single individual, isn't going to be that unlikely.
- typon 3y ago
  Yes - Meissner effect is also called Flux Pinning. Superconductor will remain pinned to the magnet in any orientation. Diamagnet will only repel. The video shows horizontal hover - that confirms Meissner effect.
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  - floxy 3y ago
    Flux Pinning is separate from the Meissner effect. Flux pinning only happens in Type II superconductors, where the Meissner effect of expelling external magnetic fields happens with both Type I and Type II superconductors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
    - xorbax 3y ago
      Meissner and flux pinning have to be mutually-exclusive, so so do we know the transition condition in LK99? NB: This may be painfully obvious from the figures.

No, thats just diamagnetism not the meissner effect

by dtx1 3y ago

No, thats just diamagnetism not the meissner effect

alchemist1e9 3y ago

Is there anything in these videos that is unique to meissner effect? in others words why can’t it be diamagnetism?

dtx1 3y ago
It looks (could be faked) like flux pinning is happening. Essentially, it's not moving but staying in place. Imagine trying to balance a magnet on another. It would not inherently stay in place.
mitthrowaway2 3y ago
It looks like that permanent magnet it's hovering over is a simple dipole magnet, rather than an array. A diamagnet would be unstable in that position. Look at any video of floating graphite and you'll see it hovering on top of a 2x2 array of magnets. Of course, you could fake it for a video by buying a special disc magnet with a multipolar magnetization pattern, but magnets like that are pretty hard to find.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  Putting a conspiracy cap on, is relatively easy to find a cover for an array that looks like a magnet
- thetoon 3y ago
  > but magnets like that are pretty hard to find. Though, so far, room temperature superconductors have been even harder.
- regularfry 3y ago
  If you already had a multipolar magnet for some reason, on the other hand, this wouldn't be too far fetched. You've got to think that with all the interest in this right now, the confluence of having access to a handy collection of peculiar magnets, knowing what to do with a bit of graphite, and being enough of a troll to publish a video, all in a single individual, isn't going to be that unlikely.
typon 3y ago
Yes - Meissner effect is also called Flux Pinning. Superconductor will remain pinned to the magnet in any orientation. Diamagnet will only repel. The video shows horizontal hover - that confirms Meissner effect.
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- floxy 3y ago
  Flux Pinning is separate from the Meissner effect. Flux pinning only happens in Type II superconductors, where the Meissner effect of expelling external magnetic fields happens with both Type I and Type II superconductors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
  - xorbax 3y ago
    Meissner and flux pinning have to be mutually-exclusive, so so do we know the transition condition in LK99? NB: This may be painfully obvious from the figures.