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> Rendering things on mobile is hard I don't know. You can stream Unity to mobile with the service I've authored (https://appmana.com/watch/theheretic https://

> Rendering things on mobile is hard I don't know. You can stream Unity to mobile with the service I've authored (https://appmana.com/watch/theheretic https://appmana.com/watch/theheretic for an example).

esperent 3y ago
Looks nice. However the issue with all 3d streaming I've ever tried is latency. It's great if you're near the server. Terrible if you're far away. It's hard so say what the input latency is for the head demo you shared. I guess about 100ms, which is totally fine for a mostly static scene with simple orbit controls. However I also tried out the Lebron James vs Father Time game. Input latency is over 1 second so it's not playable. Any time I touch the screen it freezes for a second then jumps to the new location.
- doctorpangloss 3y ago
  You might like this one more - https://appmana.com/watch/virtualtestdrive https://appmana.com/watch/virtualtestdrive - because it's just better :) While of course I want latency to be as low as possible, the difference between 100ms and 500ms of latency doesn't register in the engagement metrics for these experiences. For millions of laypeople, it doesn't seem to matter that much. However, going from 670ms of time to first image (this service) and 2.5s (worst case) increases bounce rates by as much as 5 percentage points. PureWeb, which typically takes 35s to load, isn't suitable for any mass audience at all. So imagine downloading a USDZ file for some AR thing. It's real, it's something people try to do. But the bounce rates on those experiences are insane, I don't know why Niantic funds them, there isn't anything you can do about it. There isn't a future for "it takes a while to load" on phones. That's the real constraint.
  - weird-eye-issue 3y ago
    Couldn't bother waiting for this to load unfortunately
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - sbarre 3y ago
    It's called "virtual test drive" but is it really just a turntable of a car? I tried a bunch of keyboard commands and nothing happened. Can I test drive the car?
    - Osiris 3y ago
      Worked for me. I clicked drive and then drove around.
      - sbarre 3y ago
        Ah, there were no buttons for me anywhere on screen, so maybe it didn't fully load. Thanks!
  - charrondev 3y ago
    I’m not sure what the issue is, that whole scene was rendering in what I would consider seconds per frame rather than frames per second. I have an iPhone 13 Pro and a decent internet connection and if I came across that I would bounce out immediately.
andsoitis 3y ago
> with the service I've authored You created Appmana?
weird-eye-issue 3y ago
Yikes the performance is terrible. You are not proving the point that you think you are
andersa 3y ago
Cool, who is going to pay for it? This isn't rendering things on mobile.
froggit 3y ago
streaming != rendering
account42 3y ago
> Cooking is hard. > Just order out bro.

esperent 3y ago

Looks nice. However the issue with all 3d streaming I've ever tried is latency. It's great if you're near the server. Terrible if you're far away. It's hard so say what the input latency is for the head demo you shared. I guess about 100ms, which is totally fine for a mostly static scene with simple orbit controls. However I also tried out the Lebron James vs Father Time game. Input latency is over 1 second so it's not playable. Any time I touch the screen it freezes for a second then jumps to the new location.

doctorpangloss 3y ago
You might like this one more - https://appmana.com/watch/virtualtestdrive https://appmana.com/watch/virtualtestdrive - because it's just better :) While of course I want latency to be as low as possible, the difference between 100ms and 500ms of latency doesn't register in the engagement metrics for these experiences. For millions of laypeople, it doesn't seem to matter that much. However, going from 670ms of time to first image (this service) and 2.5s (worst case) increases bounce rates by as much as 5 percentage points. PureWeb, which typically takes 35s to load, isn't suitable for any mass audience at all. So imagine downloading a USDZ file for some AR thing. It's real, it's something people try to do. But the bounce rates on those experiences are insane, I don't know why Niantic funds them, there isn't anything you can do about it. There isn't a future for "it takes a while to load" on phones. That's the real constraint.
- weird-eye-issue 3y ago
  Couldn't bother waiting for this to load unfortunately
- deleted 3y ago
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- sbarre 3y ago
  It's called "virtual test drive" but is it really just a turntable of a car? I tried a bunch of keyboard commands and nothing happened. Can I test drive the car?
  - Osiris 3y ago
    Worked for me. I clicked drive and then drove around.
    - sbarre 3y ago
      Ah, there were no buttons for me anywhere on screen, so maybe it didn't fully load. Thanks!
- charrondev 3y ago
  I’m not sure what the issue is, that whole scene was rendering in what I would consider seconds per frame rather than frames per second. I have an iPhone 13 Pro and a decent internet connection and if I came across that I would bounce out immediately.

andsoitis 3y ago

> with the service I've authored You created Appmana?

weird-eye-issue 3y ago

Yikes the performance is terrible. You are not proving the point that you think you are

andersa 3y ago

Cool, who is going to pay for it? This isn't rendering things on mobile.

froggit 3y ago

streaming != rendering

account42 3y ago

> Cooking is hard. > Just order out bro.