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How are they a threat? They're lying in a pool of vomit, it's pretty clear they need help. Maybe teach your kids a bit of compassion?

by barbs 3y ago

wonderwonder 3y ago
Again, I refer you to my parent comment, how should I provide help & compassion? Which option should I select? As far as how are they a threat, really? The internet is overflowing with articles like this. https://www.foxla.com/news/lapd-woman-stabbed-in-head-scissors-unprovoked-attack https://www.foxla.com/news/lapd-woman-stabbed-in-head-scisso...
- soligern 3y ago
  I’m with you on most of what you said but probably calling 911 may be one option that lets you continue along your way while helping someone that may be in a life or death situation.
  - wonderwonder 3y ago
    I would generally agree with you but there were dozens of people like this there, some better, some the same. I wish I was exaggerating. Dude wasn't dying, he just found a good spot to vomit and take a nap.
- barbs 3y ago
  I'm sorry but giving wildly exaggerated options and suggesting and they're your only options is a bit disingenuous. How about just checking that they're okay instead of glaring at them for inconveniencing you? And yes, really, I'm asking how they're a threat when they're unconscious? Just because they're homeless doesn't make them dangerous. This attitude of the homeless being a nuisance or and inconvenience instead of part of the community only exacerbates the problem and makes them less likely to receive the help they need. Homelessness is a complex issue and I'm not sure what the solution is but seeing them as people in tough circumstances that need help is a start.
  - wonderwonder 3y ago
    There were people like this all over the city. Literally thousands of people who actually live there walk passed them every day. I did as they did, figured the people that live there know better than a tourist. Did you want me to kneel down next to each one, my kids next to me and give them a shake? What are the odds someone passed out on hard drugs, likely with mental issues is going to react well to being woken by a stranger? I invite people in my community into my home. Do you expect me to invite homeless addicts into my house? Homeless people are a "nuisance and inconvenience" to the community. To argue otherwise is to be disingenuous. These are just from yesterday https://ktla.com/news/local-news/homeless-man-accused-of-fatally-stabbing-victim-near-santa-monica-beach-restrooms/ https://ktla.com/news/local-news/homeless-man-accused-of-fat... https://www.fox5dc.com/news/pittsburgh-police-arrest-suspect-in-brutal-attack-on-newlywed-found-in-puddle-of-blood-during-honeymoon https://www.fox5dc.com/news/pittsburgh-police-arrest-suspect...
    - barbs 3y ago
      > Homeless people are a "nuisance and inconvenience" to the community. To argue otherwise is to be disingenuous. Okay, it's pretty clear that you're discussing this from a place of ignorance and privilege. I suggest educating yourself better before engaging further on this subject.
      - wonderwonder 3y ago
        Are you arguing that the majority of people don't see homeless people as an inconvenience? Or that people are glad to contribute large amounts of their tax dollars to support them? I'm arguing from a place of reality, not imaginary "how it should be" perspective. No one besides a few on the far left wants homeless addicts in their community. If you think that the vast majority of people like the homeless and addicts in their community you are not being realistic. What is there to educate myself on? I want to live in a safe neighborhood where my kids don't have to worry about stepping on needles or vomit, where my wife can walk down the street without being catcalled by dudes that have not showered in 3 weeks. Where stores and cars are not broken into. Is that wrong? And before we touch on all we need is more housing, sure but that's expensive, takes a really long time to build and how are the addicts going to pay rent or are we just going to raise taxes? Plus I don't want an apartment complex full of addicts next door.

How are they a threat? They're lying in a pool of vomit, it's pretty clear they need help. Maybe teach your kids a bit of compassion?

by barbs 3y ago

How are they a threat? They're lying in a pool of vomit, it's pretty clear they need help. Maybe teach your kids a bit of compassion?

wonderwonder 3y ago

Again, I refer you to my parent comment, how should I provide help & compassion? Which option should I select? As far as how are they a threat, really? The internet is overflowing with articles like this. https://www.foxla.com/news/lapd-woman-stabbed-in-head-scissors-unprovoked-attack https://www.foxla.com/news/lapd-woman-stabbed-in-head-scisso...

soligern 3y ago
I’m with you on most of what you said but probably calling 911 may be one option that lets you continue along your way while helping someone that may be in a life or death situation.
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  I would generally agree with you but there were dozens of people like this there, some better, some the same. I wish I was exaggerating. Dude wasn't dying, he just found a good spot to vomit and take a nap.
barbs 3y ago
I'm sorry but giving wildly exaggerated options and suggesting and they're your only options is a bit disingenuous. How about just checking that they're okay instead of glaring at them for inconveniencing you? And yes, really, I'm asking how they're a threat when they're unconscious? Just because they're homeless doesn't make them dangerous. This attitude of the homeless being a nuisance or and inconvenience instead of part of the community only exacerbates the problem and makes them less likely to receive the help they need. Homelessness is a complex issue and I'm not sure what the solution is but seeing them as people in tough circumstances that need help is a start.
- wonderwonder 3y ago
  There were people like this all over the city. Literally thousands of people who actually live there walk passed them every day. I did as they did, figured the people that live there know better than a tourist. Did you want me to kneel down next to each one, my kids next to me and give them a shake? What are the odds someone passed out on hard drugs, likely with mental issues is going to react well to being woken by a stranger? I invite people in my community into my home. Do you expect me to invite homeless addicts into my house? Homeless people are a "nuisance and inconvenience" to the community. To argue otherwise is to be disingenuous. These are just from yesterday https://ktla.com/news/local-news/homeless-man-accused-of-fatally-stabbing-victim-near-santa-monica-beach-restrooms/ https://ktla.com/news/local-news/homeless-man-accused-of-fat... https://www.fox5dc.com/news/pittsburgh-police-arrest-suspect-in-brutal-attack-on-newlywed-found-in-puddle-of-blood-during-honeymoon https://www.fox5dc.com/news/pittsburgh-police-arrest-suspect...
  - barbs 3y ago
    > Homeless people are a "nuisance and inconvenience" to the community. To argue otherwise is to be disingenuous. Okay, it's pretty clear that you're discussing this from a place of ignorance and privilege. I suggest educating yourself better before engaging further on this subject.
    - wonderwonder 3y ago
      Are you arguing that the majority of people don't see homeless people as an inconvenience? Or that people are glad to contribute large amounts of their tax dollars to support them? I'm arguing from a place of reality, not imaginary "how it should be" perspective. No one besides a few on the far left wants homeless addicts in their community. If you think that the vast majority of people like the homeless and addicts in their community you are not being realistic. What is there to educate myself on? I want to live in a safe neighborhood where my kids don't have to worry about stepping on needles or vomit, where my wife can walk down the street without being catcalled by dudes that have not showered in 3 weeks. Where stores and cars are not broken into. Is that wrong? And before we touch on all we need is more housing, sure but that's expensive, takes a really long time to build and how are the addicts going to pay rent or are we just going to raise taxes? Plus I don't want an apartment complex full of addicts next door.