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I used to strongly support people getting guns. I thought: this is a free country, you should be able to do what you want. But what I've seen in the US has mad

I used to strongly support people getting guns. I thought: this is a free country, you should be able to do what you want. But what I've seen in the US has made me think differently. Most people who get guns eventually end up not being able to live like normal adults. And no one willingly goes to get help or treatment. The problem will stick around because politicians care more about how things look. They'll say the numbers are wrong, or focus on wedge issues like LBGTQ or drugs, but they're not going to do anything on hard issues like this one. Does anyone have ideas on what we should do? Should we make guns illegal and force people into rehab? Should we require background checks for homeless people to receive government help?

GeoAtreides 3y ago
There is a difference between things that only affect me (or my body) and things that affect other people. Guns heavily skew towards the latter.
- dabluecaboose 3y ago
  Funny how my closet full of guns is just randomly killing people who walk outside my apartment. I should get better lead shielding. From a less snarky perspective, something absurd like 2/3rds of all gun deaths are suicide*. Which pretty definitively skews towards affecting one's own body over others. EDIT: 54% in 2021, according to Pew Research [1] [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-...
FormerBandmate 3y ago
Legal guns do way less damage than drugs by a long shot. Even illegal guns kill less people, and you don’t solve illegal guns by banning guns, the millions of illegal guns aren’t going to turn in themselves We do need gun control but it is an absurdly tiny issue compared to drugs. Barely anyone dies in mass shootings with legally purchased guns, it’s up there with lightning strikes
- downvotetruth 3y ago
  Drugs do way less damage than cancer by a long shot. Even illegal drugs kill less people, and you don’t solve illegal drugs by banning drugs, the millions of illegal drugs aren’t going to turn in themselves We do need drug control but it is an absurdly tiny issue compared to cancer. Barely anyone dies in mass overdoses with legally purchased drugs, it’s up there with lightning strikes

GeoAtreides 3y ago

There is a difference between things that only affect me (or my body) and things that affect other people. Guns heavily skew towards the latter.

dabluecaboose 3y ago
Funny how my closet full of guns is just randomly killing people who walk outside my apartment. I should get better lead shielding. From a less snarky perspective, something absurd like 2/3rds of all gun deaths are suicide*. Which pretty definitively skews towards affecting one's own body over others. EDIT: 54% in 2021, according to Pew Research [1] [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-...

FormerBandmate 3y ago

Legal guns do way less damage than drugs by a long shot. Even illegal guns kill less people, and you don’t solve illegal guns by banning guns, the millions of illegal guns aren’t going to turn in themselves We do need gun control but it is an absurdly tiny issue compared to drugs. Barely anyone dies in mass shootings with legally purchased guns, it’s up there with lightning strikes

downvotetruth 3y ago
Drugs do way less damage than cancer by a long shot. Even illegal drugs kill less people, and you don’t solve illegal drugs by banning drugs, the millions of illegal drugs aren’t going to turn in themselves We do need drug control but it is an absurdly tiny issue compared to cancer. Barely anyone dies in mass overdoses with legally purchased drugs, it’s up there with lightning strikes