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> would be better if the drugs were cheaper and safer. Drugs are never going to be safer. If FDA approved painkillers can get you addicted, I am not sure how m

> would be better if the drugs were cheaper and safer. Drugs are never going to be safer. If FDA approved painkillers can get you addicted, I am not sure how much safer can Fentanyl get. And making them cheaper is only going to create more problems. Prohibition doesn’t prevent people from accessing drugs. But that doesn’t mean we make it easily accessible. Theft is illegal, but it doesn’t stop people from stealing. That doesn’t mean we legalize it. Because if we do, we’ll have a free for all like we have in SF and other parts of California.

setr 3y ago
Safer drugs is usually referring to not getting drugs cut with other unknown shit. A common scenario is heroin from dealer A being mixed, then you switch to dealer B and get it pure (or at least more so) but not knowing that, you take the same dosage and overdose
- anon84873628 3y ago
  Yes, exactly.
- darth_avocado 3y ago
  That is never going to go away though. After weed was legalized in California, 2/3 purchases are still from the black market. [1] That market always will exist because cutting makes drugs cheaper and legal drugs will never be able to compete. [1] https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/06/california-illicit-cannabis-market-thrive/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/06/california-illicit...
  - vhlhvjcov 3y ago
    How much moonshine do you drink? As another commenter pointed out, from the article you posted: > all of this is taking place in an industry without bankruptcy protections, where individuals carry personal liability for business taxes, and where businesses are barred from writing off normal expenses. So your argument is not backed up by your own link > That market always will exist because cutting makes drugs cheaper and legal drugs will never be able to compete.
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    - xienze 3y ago
      > How much moonshine do you drink? That question varies depending on where in the country you ask it. There’s a huge cultural aspect to moonshining and a lot of people in the south drink it.
      - SyzygistSix 3y ago
        True but the quality is quite high nowadays. No one is diluting it with dangerous shit.
rovolo 3y ago
>I am not sure how much safer can Fentanyl get Proper labeling/packaging would make it easier to know what dose you're taking. I believe many overdose deaths were blamed on fentanyl added to heroin, where the user was expecting just heroin. (I don't know how true my memory is of those initial news articles about fentanyl overdoses in the early 10s)
- seattle_spring 3y ago
  > I believe many overdose deaths were blamed on fentanyl added to heroin, where the user was expecting just heroin. Not just with other opiates like Heroin, but all other drugs, period. People are dying from fentanyl when they thought they took a relatively safe party drug like MDMA or Ketamine. Much of that would disappear for people who actually knew what they were getting.

setr 3y ago

Safer drugs is usually referring to not getting drugs cut with other unknown shit. A common scenario is heroin from dealer A being mixed, then you switch to dealer B and get it pure (or at least more so) but not knowing that, you take the same dosage and overdose

anon84873628 3y ago
Yes, exactly.
darth_avocado 3y ago
That is never going to go away though. After weed was legalized in California, 2/3 purchases are still from the black market. [1] That market always will exist because cutting makes drugs cheaper and legal drugs will never be able to compete. [1] https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/06/california-illicit-cannabis-market-thrive/ https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/06/california-illicit...
- vhlhvjcov 3y ago
  How much moonshine do you drink? As another commenter pointed out, from the article you posted: > all of this is taking place in an industry without bankruptcy protections, where individuals carry personal liability for business taxes, and where businesses are barred from writing off normal expenses. So your argument is not backed up by your own link > That market always will exist because cutting makes drugs cheaper and legal drugs will never be able to compete.
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  - xienze 3y ago
    > How much moonshine do you drink? That question varies depending on where in the country you ask it. There’s a huge cultural aspect to moonshining and a lot of people in the south drink it.
    - SyzygistSix 3y ago
      True but the quality is quite high nowadays. No one is diluting it with dangerous shit.

rovolo 3y ago

>I am not sure how much safer can Fentanyl get Proper labeling/packaging would make it easier to know what dose you're taking. I believe many overdose deaths were blamed on fentanyl added to heroin, where the user was expecting just heroin. (I don't know how true my memory is of those initial news articles about fentanyl overdoses in the early 10s)

seattle_spring 3y ago
> I believe many overdose deaths were blamed on fentanyl added to heroin, where the user was expecting just heroin. Not just with other opiates like Heroin, but all other drugs, period. People are dying from fentanyl when they thought they took a relatively safe party drug like MDMA or Ketamine. Much of that would disappear for people who actually knew what they were getting.