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Proxy wars are still wars.
by monocasa 3y ago
Proxy wars are still wars.
- astrange 3y agoTell that to all our infantry who aren't in any danger. Selling used military equipment is not being at war.
- solardev 3y agoUS weapons, US intel, US alliances and organizations... I doubt Russia looks at it and thinks "Oh, OK, the US is totally not involved. They're our friends!" Even when we're not actively sending troops, we're busy making enemies for the next war...
- red-iron-pine 3y agothey regularly declared the US was their primary enemy well before invading Ukraine, and actively leveraged aggressive information and political influence operations to destabilize the US there is no "making enemies for the next war" -- they were always enemies
- mistermann 3y agoTell this to the loved ones left behind by those killed in "not war".
- astrange 3y agoWho?
- Zircom 3y agoThey've just off-shored the lives lost. It's not any different than off-shoring manufacturing and poisoning some third world country with the waste chemicals and runoff instead of the homeland.
- astrange 3y agoThe lives are being lost because Russians are shooting at them. They're the ones who decided to do that.
- myko 3y ago"Proxy war" implies the US put Ukraine up to this. The US did not. Russia put Ukraine up to it by invading them.
- monocasa 3y agoThe US has had a heavy hand in this situation for a decade. You can argue that it's the right thing to do, but it's not like the US just got involved once Russia invaded.
- _kbh_ 3y ago> The US has had a heavy hand in this situation for a decade. You can argue that it's the right thing to do, but it's not like the US just got involved once Russia invaded. It’s worth remembering that this war actually started close to a decade ago and not in 2022. Based on that it does sound like the US got involved around the time Russia invaded.
- monocasa 3y agoI mean, a decade ago Ukraine was de facto Russian territory.
- myko 3y agoIf by that you mean Paul Manafort helped install a Russian puppet as president who was ousted by the Ukrainian people, then you could argue that, but Ukraine is a sovereign and has been since the 90s. Your argument is the same as Putin's, claiming it isn't an invasion because Ukraine is Russia's!