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Some missing context: the instruments are generated by Opus codec glitches. https://cybre.space/@SuricrasiaOnline/106633181764596703 https://cybre.space/@Suricr

Some missing context: the instruments are generated by Opus codec glitches. https://cybre.space/@SuricrasiaOnline/106633181764596703 https://cybre.space/@SuricrasiaOnline/106633181764596703, https://lethargic.talkative.fish/@suricrasia/statuses/01H6NA9C52D3RGGKW22GC61S3S https://lethargic.talkative.fish/@suricrasia/statuses/01H6NA...

catapart 3y ago
Ahhh, thank you! I was wondering what the seed corresponded to. Pretty neat little thing! I was just trying to figure out if they were using some novel system to categorize procedural synths as "good", because that seems pretty useful! Still a neat little thing, though!
Aachen 3y ago
I still don't get it. What's an Opus codec glitch? I know roughly how things like jpg, flac, and mp3 work, and worked with Opus via ffmpeg/opusenc, but what makes some sounds a glitch? Can you only hear this when playing the data with certain decoders or so? The page and the posts don't say
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  My guess would be it's when you chose the codec parameters such the output gets some weird artefacts not present in the original source.
- TazeTSchnitzel 3y ago
  This might be glitching in the sense of “glitch art”, where you deliberately corrupt a compressed file in small ways (flip a few bits here and there, for example) that propagate in interesting ways when decompressed.
- MaPi_ 3y ago
  On the projects page (https://suricrasia.online/projects/ https://suricrasia.online/projects/) it says "Make glitchy beats with randomly generated Opus protocol packets." So I guess it's random data fed into the opus decoder.
  - blackle 3y ago
    author here: this is correct. the opus protocol is so efficient, you can fill a packet with random data and it will still decompress into a sensible sound. this is where all the sounds come from
    - postalrat 3y ago
      I've thought about doing something similar for google's voice compression lyra https://github.com/google/lyra https://github.com/google/lyra
    - Aachen 3y ago
      That... how is that a glitch? That's it functioning as designed
jmvalin 3y ago
(Opus author here) I'm curious what kind of "glitch" this is referring to.
- blackle 3y ago
  author here: they are randomly generated packets, extended using the packet loss concealment feature. you can fill a packet with random data and it will still decompress into a sensible sound, and that's where all the sounds in the drum machine come from

catapart 3y ago

Ahhh, thank you! I was wondering what the seed corresponded to. Pretty neat little thing! I was just trying to figure out if they were using some novel system to categorize procedural synths as "good", because that seems pretty useful! Still a neat little thing, though!

Aachen 3y ago

I still don't get it. What's an Opus codec glitch? I know roughly how things like jpg, flac, and mp3 work, and worked with Opus via ffmpeg/opusenc, but what makes some sounds a glitch? Can you only hear this when playing the data with certain decoders or so? The page and the posts don't say

justsomehnguy 3y ago
My guess would be it's when you chose the codec parameters such the output gets some weird artefacts not present in the original source.
TazeTSchnitzel 3y ago
This might be glitching in the sense of “glitch art”, where you deliberately corrupt a compressed file in small ways (flip a few bits here and there, for example) that propagate in interesting ways when decompressed.
MaPi_ 3y ago
On the projects page (https://suricrasia.online/projects/ https://suricrasia.online/projects/) it says "Make glitchy beats with randomly generated Opus protocol packets." So I guess it's random data fed into the opus decoder.
- blackle 3y ago
  author here: this is correct. the opus protocol is so efficient, you can fill a packet with random data and it will still decompress into a sensible sound. this is where all the sounds come from
  - postalrat 3y ago
    I've thought about doing something similar for google's voice compression lyra https://github.com/google/lyra https://github.com/google/lyra
  - Aachen 3y ago
    That... how is that a glitch? That's it functioning as designed

jmvalin 3y ago

(Opus author here) I'm curious what kind of "glitch" this is referring to.

blackle 3y ago
author here: they are randomly generated packets, extended using the packet loss concealment feature. you can fill a packet with random data and it will still decompress into a sensible sound, and that's where all the sounds in the drum machine come from