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Yeah, seems racist, why do it? Never understood the fixation in US of breaking every stat by ethnicity or skin color.
by epolanski 3y ago
Yeah, seems racist, why do it?
Never understood the fixation in US of breaking every stat by ethnicity or skin color.
- whimsicalism 3y agoBecause to identify discrimination, you need to measure it. Without taking these stats, the Jim Crow South suddenly looks like an even-handed application of voting tests. e: I will say, the number of comments I get from European commentators favoring the “putting your hands in front of your eyes” approach when it comes to racism in Europe does make it completely unsurprising how non-diverse their C-suite is as well as why they have difficulty attracting high-skilled immigrant talent.
- epolanski 3y agoDelusional arguments. Out of the richest 1000 Americans how many are blacks? 1? 2? And what's the % like in prisons? Wasn't Oprah the only black billionaire in US like for a decade? US attracts talents because there's much more money in US than elsewhere and the political and bureaucratic environment favors entrepreneurship. Please quit lecturing people around the world bantering a moral ground you don't have.
- hot_gril 3y ago> US attracts talents because there's much more money in US than elsewhere and the political and bureaucratic environment favors entrepreneurship. I agree. The attitude towards immigrants doesn't seem to affect how well they do anyway. The opportunities matter much more than anything else.
- whimsicalism 3y agoThe US has long had permissive immigration policy relative to Europe and that is absolutely one of the largest factors in America's dominance in industry and that immigration policy is a product of attitude towards immigrants. This is true historically - explaining dominance in the 20th century - and in modern tech, capital flows to where it can most effectively leverage high-skilled technical labor and that was the almost exclusively the United States until very recently.
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- hot_gril 3y agoWe Americans do it for "reverse discrimination," and yes it's racist.
- whimsicalism 3y agoYeah I am sure there is no lingering racism in countries that were literally running colonial societies in Africa within living memory. My dad grew up in a European country with colonies in Africa, with state sponsored racism against africans, but yeah it’s all reverse now.
- hot_gril 3y agoI didn't say there isn't racism in Europe. In fact, I think Europe is more racist than the US.
- whimsicalism 3y agoJust that we shouldn’t measure it. Agreed that Europe is more racist
- hot_gril 3y agoI don't think it's any of my school's, employer's, internship's, etc business what race I am, unless there are protections in place that make it only for govt statistics. The US Census is also fine. Like it took until 2023 to finally outlaw intentional racial discrimination in American universities; that was A-OK and widely practiced before. And some of Google's internship programs publicly list what races they prefer, which is common in tech.
- epolanski 3y agoEurope is a huge place. Anyway comparing it to a country that's been built on immigrants killing and banishing natives is plain lunacy.
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