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When you have to manually input the scores for the various board positions, feels much less exciting.
by bombolo 3y ago
When you have to manually input the scores for the various board positions, feels much less exciting.
- lawn 3y agoMonumental progress is very rarely done in one giant step, but with many incremental improvements.
- FrustratedMonky 3y agoThat is just the physical layer. Robotics is behind in making a 'human'. Even AlphaGo had a human moving the pieces, and nobody would say that was evidence of any 'lack' in the AI. It's just an interfacing issue, engineering will eventually solve. Edit> What I was getting at. Take Robots as the physical interface layer for the AI. AI advancements are currently outpacing advancements in Robotics. So potentially AI could use real humans as the 'hands and feet' to do things in the physical world, by giving directions. Something will be needed to bridge the gap until Industry can be done completely by robots. Until then, AI wont be able to manufacture itself.
- RunSet 3y agoPlenty of practically mint human bodies just sitting around waiting to be repurposed. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9816703 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9816703
- FrustratedMonky 3y agoThis is the scary scenario. What if AI does out pace humans, but the physical side does not, we don't succeed in making vast quantities of easy to build and maintain robots. Thus to keep industry going, the AI does need humans, and it gives the directions. If you have ever worked in a modern warehouse, it is very evident, the humans are just following instructions from the system. Now scale that up to a manufacturing facility, it is already happening. Everybody with an ear-piece or 'phone' type device, following instructions.
- ido 3y agoReminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel)
- crabmusket 3y agoThis is what Doctorow refers to as the "reverse centaur"
- johnnyworker 3y ago> The problem here isn't automation, it's power. The workers whom the robots could benefit are instead harnessed to the robot to the benefit of the shareholders. > Workplace democracy, AKA unionization, AKA the thing Amazon has pulled out every dirty trick to prevent, is the difference between centaur utopia and reverse-centaur dystopia. -- https://pluralistic.net/2021/02/17/reverse-centaur/#reverse-centaur https://pluralistic.net/2021/02/17/reverse-centaur/#reverse-...
- Analemma_ 3y agoAgain, your information is tremendously out of date. AlphaZero crushes grandmasters and had no human training whatsoever as to board evaluation functions.
- bombolo 3y agoAgain? When else? Also, we were talking about deep blue. Perhaps trying to not go OT would be beneficial to a productive discussion.