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Look for federally legal hemp derived delta 9 products. They usually max out at 5 or 10mg per serving

ramesh31 3y ago
>Look for federally legal hemp derived delta 9 products. They usually max out at 5 or 10mg per serving So funny that that law didn't account for how edibles work. If you have a baked good (brownie, cookie, etc.) which weighs 100 grams, and it contains 29mg delta-9 THC, thats below the 0.3% legal threshold, and still a solid dose. I always try to explain this to people, that the Republicans actually unwittingly legalized weed in 2017, but no one ever gets it. Fact is, delta-9 THC edibles are now federally legal (and can be ordered online) in all 50 states due to the Farm Bill loophole.
- yamazakiwi 3y ago
  Most people don't know about Delta-9 yet. It was brought to my attention when I saw a video about a business selling Delta-9 drinks in an illegal state.
  - ramesh31 3y ago
    >Most people don't know about Delta-9 yet. Delta 9 is the long-known active ingredient in regular marijuana. You're thinking of delta 8, which is a new isolate. This is kind of my point though. When I talk about this stuff, people assume I just mean delta 8, or CBD or whatever. Nope. Straight up delta 9 edibles are 100% federally legal now.
    - polynomial 3y ago
      100% federally legal? How is that even possible?
      - ramesh31 3y ago
        >100% federally legal? How is that even possible? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_Improvement_Act_of_2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_Improvement_Act_... It's the entire reason for the explosion of hemp stores everywhere in the last few years. That "0.3%" clause is the kicker. Because 0.3% is a long way away from being 0%, it means posession of THC is now federally legal.
    - yamazakiwi 3y ago
      You could explain why it matters, instead of complaining that people don't understand. Delta-8 is also psychoactive and not well known so it's easy to mix up. CBD has been legal for a while and is completely different than THC products so it shouldn't be compared. Stating Delta-9 is legal, not Delta-8, is not that big of a difference. If you think it is, you should talk about why it matters because your attitude obviously hasn't worked thus far for dealing with people who just don't understand. Maybe, you're not concerned with people understanding as much as you state.
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
  It was funny last year when Minnesota set a limit of 5mg/serving and 50mg/package. All this stuff in the news about MN legalizing edibles, but they just put a limit on potency of products that were already sold there. And now you can get cans of seltzer that have 10mg and call it 2 servings.
- driggs 3y ago
  That's because the loophole doesn't exist. It's an obviously flawed interpretation of the 2018 Farm Bill which isn't likely to hold up in court when it's finally tested there. Here's a commentary by drug policy litigator Matt Zorn: https://ondrugs.substack.com/p/delta-9-thc-gummies https://ondrugs.substack.com/p/delta-9-thc-gummies The prefatory text to Schedule I(c) of the Controlled Substances Act removes all doubt: “[u]nless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances” is a Schedule I substance. A 12 mg THC extract infused into a 4-gram gummy consisting of non-cannabis isn’t a “hemp” gummy. It is a “material,” “mixture,” or “preparation” containing “marihuana,” which is a Schedule I controlled substance.
  - ramesh31 3y ago
    >which isn't likely to hold up in court when it's finally tested there. This is the key. Who will ever bring this in front of a judge? The "anti-weed" lobby has all but ceased to exist. Which leaves basically a small handful of deep red state attorney generals that would even have the standing to be able to attempt it. And which side do you think has the funding (and incentive) to defend it all the way to the supreme court? The floodgates have opened, and they're never going back. There's simply too much money and momentum behind it. Even the conservatives are on board at this point now that they've seen the tax revenues.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > Who will ever bring this in front of a judge? Apparently, an accused trademark violator, in the hopes of proving that, as it was not in legal use in trade, the trademark they are accused of violating was not valid in the first place.
  - marssaxman 3y ago
    Who would waste their time litigating such a case when the legalization trend is so clear? A solid majority of US citizens live in states which have already decided that federal marijuana laws are irrelevant.
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- markdown 3y ago
  > I always try to explain this to people, that the Republicans actually unwittingly legalized weed in 2017, but no one ever gets it. It's because you're using the word wrong. Weed is illegal federally. The problem is that you think THC is weed, and Delta-9 is weed, and CBD is weed. Words have meaning. A caffeine pill isn't coffee, and beef steak isn't a cow. Something being derived from something doesn't make it that original thing.
  - Lofty1971 3y ago
    I think they are using the word correctly in the commonly agreed upon wording. Republicans legalized hemp technically, then set the legal definition of hemp such that THCa flower fit under that definition. THCa flower does not have more than 0.3% THC by weight (well it might but that's another issue of allowing pre harvest testing), it can however have more than 0.3% THCa by weight. THCa converts to THC when exposed to heat (such as combustion in a joint, pipe, oven, etc.). In common word usage of weed as a plant that gets you high off THC when you smoke it then they did legalize 'weed'.
- mmh0000 3y ago
  Ordered online you say? Where would this be done? //Asking for a friend.
  - zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
    www.nothingbuthemp.net These guys are legit. I just toured their production facility last week and I was impressed enough that we chose them as our contract manufacturer for gummies.
  - ChoGGi 3y ago
    There's a crap load of online places in Canada, but I very much doubt they ship cross border.
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cm2012 3y ago
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>Look for federally legal hemp derived delta 9 products. They usually max out at 5 or 10mg per serving So funny that that law didn't account for how edibles work. If you have a baked good (brownie, cookie, etc.) which weighs 100 grams, and it contains 29mg delta-9 THC, thats below the 0.3% legal threshold, and still a solid dose. I always try to explain this to people, that the Republicans actually unwittingly legalized weed in 2017, but no one ever gets it. Fact is, delta-9 THC edibles are now federally legal (and can be ordered online) in all 50 states due to the Farm Bill loophole.

yamazakiwi 3y ago
Most people don't know about Delta-9 yet. It was brought to my attention when I saw a video about a business selling Delta-9 drinks in an illegal state.
- ramesh31 3y ago
  >Most people don't know about Delta-9 yet. Delta 9 is the long-known active ingredient in regular marijuana. You're thinking of delta 8, which is a new isolate. This is kind of my point though. When I talk about this stuff, people assume I just mean delta 8, or CBD or whatever. Nope. Straight up delta 9 edibles are 100% federally legal now.
  - polynomial 3y ago
    100% federally legal? How is that even possible?
    - ramesh31 3y ago
      >100% federally legal? How is that even possible? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_Improvement_Act_of_2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_Improvement_Act_... It's the entire reason for the explosion of hemp stores everywhere in the last few years. That "0.3%" clause is the kicker. Because 0.3% is a long way away from being 0%, it means posession of THC is now federally legal.
  - yamazakiwi 3y ago
    You could explain why it matters, instead of complaining that people don't understand. Delta-8 is also psychoactive and not well known so it's easy to mix up. CBD has been legal for a while and is completely different than THC products so it shouldn't be compared. Stating Delta-9 is legal, not Delta-8, is not that big of a difference. If you think it is, you should talk about why it matters because your attitude obviously hasn't worked thus far for dealing with people who just don't understand. Maybe, you're not concerned with people understanding as much as you state.
zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
It was funny last year when Minnesota set a limit of 5mg/serving and 50mg/package. All this stuff in the news about MN legalizing edibles, but they just put a limit on potency of products that were already sold there. And now you can get cans of seltzer that have 10mg and call it 2 servings.
driggs 3y ago
That's because the loophole doesn't exist. It's an obviously flawed interpretation of the 2018 Farm Bill which isn't likely to hold up in court when it's finally tested there. Here's a commentary by drug policy litigator Matt Zorn: https://ondrugs.substack.com/p/delta-9-thc-gummies https://ondrugs.substack.com/p/delta-9-thc-gummies The prefatory text to Schedule I(c) of the Controlled Substances Act removes all doubt: “[u]nless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances” is a Schedule I substance. A 12 mg THC extract infused into a 4-gram gummy consisting of non-cannabis isn’t a “hemp” gummy. It is a “material,” “mixture,” or “preparation” containing “marihuana,” which is a Schedule I controlled substance.
- ramesh31 3y ago
  >which isn't likely to hold up in court when it's finally tested there. This is the key. Who will ever bring this in front of a judge? The "anti-weed" lobby has all but ceased to exist. Which leaves basically a small handful of deep red state attorney generals that would even have the standing to be able to attempt it. And which side do you think has the funding (and incentive) to defend it all the way to the supreme court? The floodgates have opened, and they're never going back. There's simply too much money and momentum behind it. Even the conservatives are on board at this point now that they've seen the tax revenues.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > Who will ever bring this in front of a judge? Apparently, an accused trademark violator, in the hopes of proving that, as it was not in legal use in trade, the trademark they are accused of violating was not valid in the first place.
- marssaxman 3y ago
  Who would waste their time litigating such a case when the legalization trend is so clear? A solid majority of US citizens live in states which have already decided that federal marijuana laws are irrelevant.
- 3y ago
markdown 3y ago
> I always try to explain this to people, that the Republicans actually unwittingly legalized weed in 2017, but no one ever gets it. It's because you're using the word wrong. Weed is illegal federally. The problem is that you think THC is weed, and Delta-9 is weed, and CBD is weed. Words have meaning. A caffeine pill isn't coffee, and beef steak isn't a cow. Something being derived from something doesn't make it that original thing.
- Lofty1971 3y ago
  I think they are using the word correctly in the commonly agreed upon wording. Republicans legalized hemp technically, then set the legal definition of hemp such that THCa flower fit under that definition. THCa flower does not have more than 0.3% THC by weight (well it might but that's another issue of allowing pre harvest testing), it can however have more than 0.3% THCa by weight. THCa converts to THC when exposed to heat (such as combustion in a joint, pipe, oven, etc.). In common word usage of weed as a plant that gets you high off THC when you smoke it then they did legalize 'weed'.
mmh0000 3y ago
Ordered online you say? Where would this be done? //Asking for a friend.
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y ago
  www.nothingbuthemp.net These guys are legit. I just toured their production facility last week and I was impressed enough that we chose them as our contract manufacturer for gummies.
- ChoGGi 3y ago
  There's a crap load of online places in Canada, but I very much doubt they ship cross border.
- deleted 3y ago
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cm2012 3y ago

They come much higher than that https://www.fullsendgummies.com/shop/d9-gummies/15 https://www.fullsendgummies.com/shop/d9-gummies/15