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Psilocybin is able to instantly turn off an addiction, and it is not addictive itself. https://time.com/6167638/psilocybin-addiction-therapeutic-breakthrough/

by myshpa 3y ago

Psilocybin is able to instantly turn off an addiction, and it is not addictive itself. https://time.com/6167638/psilocybin-addiction-therapeutic-breakthrough/ https://time.com/6167638/psilocybin-addiction-therapeutic-br... Psilocybin Could be a Therapeutic Breakthrough For Addiction https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9947277/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9947277/ All four clinical trials indicated a beneficial effect of psilocybin-assisted therapy on SUD symptoms https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27441452/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27441452/ All 15 participants ... At 12-month follow-up, 10 participants (67%) were confirmed as smoking abstinent. At long-term follow-up, nine participants (60%) were confirmed as smoking abstinent. At 12-month follow-up 13 participants (86.7%) rated their psilocybin experiences among the five most personally meaningful and spiritually significant experiences of their lives.

colecut 3y ago
I would love to stop smoking, and have taken mushrooms several times in the past couple months... It unfortunately doesn't work for everyone.
- haswell 3y ago
  The key with these studies is the associated therapy. I’ve heard the effects of psilocybin described as (roughly) increasing neuroplasticity for a time, thus allowing changes that would be significantly harder to accomplish otherwise. But I don’t think unguided trips would automatically have this effect if you don’t already have the necessary tools/frameworks going in.
HDThoreaun 3y ago
I'm addicted to weed and do a lot of mushrooms as well. Never felt the urge to stop weed after a trip. As with all addictions, but especially weed, the only way to stop is to want to. The only really bad thing about quitting is the boredom from not being high. I've quite a dozen times myself, going upwards of a year sober, but I'm much less happy afterwards.
- myshpa 3y ago
  > the only way to stop is to want to ... but I'm much less happy afterwards If you don't want to quit, nothing will help, probably. > the boredom from not being high Maybe this is the real problem?
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    That's exactly what I'm saying. Mushrooms aren't the key, wanting to quit is. Quitting weed is pretty easy if you want to. Not at all like tobacco or opioids.
    - haswell 3y ago
      The success scenarios I’ve heard about involve psilocybin + trained therapist. Some people have undirected transformative experiences, but some people (most?) need help navigating.
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      - myshpa 3y ago
        > undirected transformative experiences Going in without a therapist doesn't necessarily mean the experience is undirected. Even during an intense psilocybin experience, people typically retain some degree of agency and control over their actions. In most cases, individuals on a psilocybe trip can still make decisions and perform basic tasks, though their perceptions and judgments might be altered.
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Weryj 3y ago
Absolutely, if I was still in Vancouver I'd make a stop by Granville.
paisleypepper 3y ago
Aside from the over-generalizations, psilocybin is a potent psychoactive substance. While it might not be "addictive" in the classic sense, it can lead to intense, sometimes challenging, psychological experiences. These experiences can be traumatic for some individuals, especially without proper guidance or in unsupportive settings.
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- kerkeslager 3y ago
  I'll note that "proper guidance" and "supportive setting" are very much undefined terms here and also do not preclude a traumatic trip. There's no situation in which using a significant dose of a psychoactive substance as powerful as psilocybin is without risks. That's not to say the risks aren't worth it for anyone, and experienced, supportive guidance can minimize some risks, but it's never without any risk at all.
Nmi2osv7 3y ago
> Psilocybin is able to instantly turn off an addiction, and it is not addictive itself. please don't share misinformation like this so confidently. was just yesterday in an AA meeting with someone who tried psilocybin and it made him relapse. the only way to turn off an addiction is sobriety
alex_lav 3y ago
It's interesting to see mushrooms on the same ride as marijuana 5-10 years ago. Almost identical. It's illegal -> "This probably shouldn't be illegal, it's not as bad as the government has suggested" -> "___ will cure ____" -> "___ can be used to treat almost anything" -> ___ is legalized in some capacities -> ___ isn't nearly as impactful as the original medicinal claims and also presents its own set of issues. I'm very curious to see what psilocybin presents in the final phase of this ride.

by myshpa 3y ago

colecut 3y ago

I would love to stop smoking, and have taken mushrooms several times in the past couple months... It unfortunately doesn't work for everyone.

haswell 3y ago
The key with these studies is the associated therapy. I’ve heard the effects of psilocybin described as (roughly) increasing neuroplasticity for a time, thus allowing changes that would be significantly harder to accomplish otherwise. But I don’t think unguided trips would automatically have this effect if you don’t already have the necessary tools/frameworks going in.

HDThoreaun 3y ago

I'm addicted to weed and do a lot of mushrooms as well. Never felt the urge to stop weed after a trip. As with all addictions, but especially weed, the only way to stop is to want to. The only really bad thing about quitting is the boredom from not being high. I've quite a dozen times myself, going upwards of a year sober, but I'm much less happy afterwards.

myshpa 3y ago
> the only way to stop is to want to ... but I'm much less happy afterwards If you don't want to quit, nothing will help, probably. > the boredom from not being high Maybe this is the real problem?
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  That's exactly what I'm saying. Mushrooms aren't the key, wanting to quit is. Quitting weed is pretty easy if you want to. Not at all like tobacco or opioids.
  - haswell 3y ago
    The success scenarios I’ve heard about involve psilocybin + trained therapist. Some people have undirected transformative experiences, but some people (most?) need help navigating.
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    - myshpa 3y ago
      > undirected transformative experiences Going in without a therapist doesn't necessarily mean the experience is undirected. Even during an intense psilocybin experience, people typically retain some degree of agency and control over their actions. In most cases, individuals on a psilocybe trip can still make decisions and perform basic tasks, though their perceptions and judgments might be altered.
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Weryj 3y ago

Absolutely, if I was still in Vancouver I'd make a stop by Granville.

paisleypepper 3y ago

Aside from the over-generalizations, psilocybin is a potent psychoactive substance. While it might not be "addictive" in the classic sense, it can lead to intense, sometimes challenging, psychological experiences. These experiences can be traumatic for some individuals, especially without proper guidance or in unsupportive settings.

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kerkeslager 3y ago
I'll note that "proper guidance" and "supportive setting" are very much undefined terms here and also do not preclude a traumatic trip. There's no situation in which using a significant dose of a psychoactive substance as powerful as psilocybin is without risks. That's not to say the risks aren't worth it for anyone, and experienced, supportive guidance can minimize some risks, but it's never without any risk at all.

Nmi2osv7 3y ago

> Psilocybin is able to instantly turn off an addiction, and it is not addictive itself. please don't share misinformation like this so confidently. was just yesterday in an AA meeting with someone who tried psilocybin and it made him relapse. the only way to turn off an addiction is sobriety

alex_lav 3y ago

It's interesting to see mushrooms on the same ride as marijuana 5-10 years ago. Almost identical. It's illegal -> "This probably shouldn't be illegal, it's not as bad as the government has suggested" -> "___ will cure ____" -> "___ can be used to treat almost anything" -> ___ is legalized in some capacities -> ___ isn't nearly as impactful as the original medicinal claims and also presents its own set of issues. I'm very curious to see what psilocybin presents in the final phase of this ride.