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I wrote an article about using Arch Linux with the (new, probably as valid for older ones) Framework Laptop 13. Should prove useful to any Linux-running peeps i

I wrote an article about using Arch Linux with the (new, probably as valid for older ones) Framework Laptop 13. Should prove useful to any Linux-running peeps in any case!

IlPeach 3y ago
Thanks for sharing, also running Arch on the Framework (11th gen). I will review and compare some of the conf to mine to see if there's anything interesting I've missed recently. I was hoping to upgrade but the queues are minimum 3 months for anything and might wait a bit more hoping they'll be able to scale up production (or maybe I'm just dreaming)
- ripley12 3y ago
  I just bought a 13th gen Framework and it shipped in 3 days. I think it’s only the AMD models that have the really long waits.
m463 3y ago
I'm not really familiar with virtualization on a linux laptop - can you run a vm and let your screen/keyboard be hijacked by the VM? maybe pointers to virtualization ideas?
- kristofferg 3y ago
  VirtualBox runs fine with all features working.
- rubin55 3y ago
  Hey, yeah sure! Erm, let's see. So I use libvirt and QEMU/KVM, where libvirt is essentially an api that makes interfacing with QEMU and KVM more consistent and nicer. Then I use virsh (command-line) and/or virt-manager (gui) to create virtual machines (these in turn talk to libvirt). The machines kan be anything Qemu supports, so you can emulate PA-RISC, Alpha, Mips, ARM, i386, AMD64, you name it. You can then install OS'es on them. There are some freaks out there that have been running Windows NT MIPS and HP-UX 10.20 for PA-RISC on it. Most of my machines are doing KVM, which essentially is hardware-assisted virtualization. This requires the VM to be AMD64 though. I currently run 10 virtual machines: castel (rhel6) - chimera (chimera-linux) - dragon (dragonflybsd6) - falcon (freebsd13) - gygax (guix) - haiku (haiku) - nomon (netbsd9) - seven (win7) - square (winnt) - xenon (alpine) You have a gui to these things (and SSH of course) through Spice. With the right drivers and agents (not available for all operating systems) you even have automatic guest display resizing, mouse in/out, copy/paste, etc.
  - m463 3y ago
    thank you, that is a lot of hints :)
signa11 3y ago
with all the tdp configuration that you have, may you please share how long does the battery last on a typical usage? thank you!
- rubin55 3y ago
  Hey, yeah sure, let's see. I started working this morning at 07:45, it's now 13:45. I had a 20 minute video conference call and watched two 15 minute videos on Youtube. At idle, I had ~3 watts, doing small typing things, coding, I had ~5 watts. During the conference call I had ~15 watts and during the Youtube videos powertop reported ~9 watts. So have been going for 6 hours, definitely some heavier CPU usage during the conference call and youtube videos, current battery is at 33% and indicates (based on my current usage: updating my blog and firefox'ing around) 3 hours and 45 minutes left.
  - signa11 3y ago
    thank you! so generally good enough to _almost_ go through the entire day.

I wrote an article about using Arch Linux with the (new, probably as valid for older ones) Framework Laptop 13. Should prove useful to any Linux-running peeps in any case!

IlPeach 3y ago

Thanks for sharing, also running Arch on the Framework (11th gen). I will review and compare some of the conf to mine to see if there's anything interesting I've missed recently. I was hoping to upgrade but the queues are minimum 3 months for anything and might wait a bit more hoping they'll be able to scale up production (or maybe I'm just dreaming)

ripley12 3y ago
I just bought a 13th gen Framework and it shipped in 3 days. I think it’s only the AMD models that have the really long waits.

m463 3y ago

I'm not really familiar with virtualization on a linux laptop - can you run a vm and let your screen/keyboard be hijacked by the VM? maybe pointers to virtualization ideas?

kristofferg 3y ago
VirtualBox runs fine with all features working.
rubin55 3y ago
Hey, yeah sure! Erm, let's see. So I use libvirt and QEMU/KVM, where libvirt is essentially an api that makes interfacing with QEMU and KVM more consistent and nicer. Then I use virsh (command-line) and/or virt-manager (gui) to create virtual machines (these in turn talk to libvirt). The machines kan be anything Qemu supports, so you can emulate PA-RISC, Alpha, Mips, ARM, i386, AMD64, you name it. You can then install OS'es on them. There are some freaks out there that have been running Windows NT MIPS and HP-UX 10.20 for PA-RISC on it. Most of my machines are doing KVM, which essentially is hardware-assisted virtualization. This requires the VM to be AMD64 though. I currently run 10 virtual machines: castel (rhel6) - chimera (chimera-linux) - dragon (dragonflybsd6) - falcon (freebsd13) - gygax (guix) - haiku (haiku) - nomon (netbsd9) - seven (win7) - square (winnt) - xenon (alpine) You have a gui to these things (and SSH of course) through Spice. With the right drivers and agents (not available for all operating systems) you even have automatic guest display resizing, mouse in/out, copy/paste, etc.
- m463 3y ago
  thank you, that is a lot of hints :)

signa11 3y ago

with all the tdp configuration that you have, may you please share how long does the battery last on a typical usage? thank you!

rubin55 3y ago
Hey, yeah sure, let's see. I started working this morning at 07:45, it's now 13:45. I had a 20 minute video conference call and watched two 15 minute videos on Youtube. At idle, I had ~3 watts, doing small typing things, coding, I had ~5 watts. During the conference call I had ~15 watts and during the Youtube videos powertop reported ~9 watts. So have been going for 6 hours, definitely some heavier CPU usage during the conference call and youtube videos, current battery is at 33% and indicates (based on my current usage: updating my blog and firefox'ing around) 3 hours and 45 minutes left.
- signa11 3y ago
  thank you! so generally good enough to _almost_ go through the entire day.