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I mean even when you buy an expensive appliance, the majority of them still tend to break way too quickly and are just more costly to repair. I'd happily pay m

by cududa 3y ago

I mean even when you buy an expensive appliance, the majority of them still tend to break way too quickly and are just more costly to repair. I'd happily pay more for something well made, but, unless it's like commercial kitchen quality, it's still not "great"

Night_Thastus 3y ago
You might happily pay more, but 99% of consumers won't. They just look at the sticker price + features and call it a day. And with the prices this low and trying to meet energy goals, reliability goes out the window.
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  > They just look at the sticker price + features and call it a day This thread makes it clear most people think all models are unreliable or that a consumer can’t search based on reliability. If you accept everything is equally unreliable or unreliability is equally unknown, what else but price and features would you use to make a decision?
  - Night_Thastus 3y ago
    If reliability is a true concern, then go commercial. If not, spend weeks researching. Cross reference text and video reviews from many sources, look into the technologies manufacturers use, look at feedback from people working in the repair industry, etc. Then, maybe you can get something a bit better than average. At the very least you'll avoid the true lemons.
    - vineyardmike 3y ago
      Well thanks for telling me this. My point was that reliability could be a true concern, but if people believe they can’t shop for it, they won’t bother. You kinda proved my point too - your suggested steps to follow take weeks, and end in a “maybe you’ll get something a bit better than average”. That truly sounds like “don’t bother even if you want it”.
      - Night_Thastus 3y ago
        That's a fair point. If there was an easy "reliability score" slapped via a sticker onto every appliance, and it was reliable, then yes, consumers might care a lot more - especially for the more expensive ones.

by cududa 3y ago

Night_Thastus 3y ago

You might happily pay more, but 99% of consumers won't. They just look at the sticker price + features and call it a day. And with the prices this low and trying to meet energy goals, reliability goes out the window.

vineyardmike 3y ago
> They just look at the sticker price + features and call it a day This thread makes it clear most people think all models are unreliable or that a consumer can’t search based on reliability. If you accept everything is equally unreliable or unreliability is equally unknown, what else but price and features would you use to make a decision?
- Night_Thastus 3y ago
  If reliability is a true concern, then go commercial. If not, spend weeks researching. Cross reference text and video reviews from many sources, look into the technologies manufacturers use, look at feedback from people working in the repair industry, etc. Then, maybe you can get something a bit better than average. At the very least you'll avoid the true lemons.
  - vineyardmike 3y ago
    Well thanks for telling me this. My point was that reliability could be a true concern, but if people believe they can’t shop for it, they won’t bother. You kinda proved my point too - your suggested steps to follow take weeks, and end in a “maybe you’ll get something a bit better than average”. That truly sounds like “don’t bother even if you want it”.
    - Night_Thastus 3y ago
      That's a fair point. If there was an easy "reliability score" slapped via a sticker onto every appliance, and it was reliable, then yes, consumers might care a lot more - especially for the more expensive ones.