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Do you feel the same about traditional bicycles (not e-bikes)? Practically all e-bikes are limited to 20-25mph, so practically I don't understand what the diffe

Do you feel the same about traditional bicycles (not e-bikes)? Practically all e-bikes are limited to 20-25mph, so practically I don't understand what the difference would be between the two. As someone who is trying to commute more with a traditional bicycle and less than a car, I would say that bicycles have no business being on motorways. In all but the quietest neighborhood streets, cars and bicycles just behave so differently. They move at very different speeds, and neither the motorists nor the bicyclist is ever happy when they need to negotiate on the road with one another. Cities and states need to build up much more dedicated bicycle infrastructure, where bikes are separated from cars.

6D794163636F756 3y ago
Class 3 e-bikes go faster. Traditional bikes are usually more in the 10-15 mph range as well. I think the argument that bikes need their own infrastructure is a good one but that we need to figure out where an ebike is different enough to need it's own infrastructure on top. If we have 80+lb e-bikes going 28 mph (typical class 3 top speed) next to a 12 year old going 8 mph that's potentially very dangerous.
toyg 3y ago
Most e-bikes are restricted, but unrestricting them is typically trivial - so everyone does. 25mph is extremely dangerous both to people around you and to yourself, when you don't have any protective equipment and no fairings.
the_snooze 3y ago
>Practically all e-bikes are limited to 20-25mph, so practically I don't understand what the difference would be between the two. 20-25 MPH is really fast for a human-powered bike. A reasonably fit person can hit those speeds, but generally only in short bursts and/or favorable terrain. I ride into work everyday through mildly uphill paths, and I only average 13 MPH on a good day (closer to 12 on most). The practical difference is that a throttle-equipped e-bike allows someone to sustain high speeds, regardless of fitness level or terrain. An e-bike rider can (and do) mindlessly go at max speed when human-powered bikes naturally can't.

6D794163636F756 3y ago

Class 3 e-bikes go faster. Traditional bikes are usually more in the 10-15 mph range as well. I think the argument that bikes need their own infrastructure is a good one but that we need to figure out where an ebike is different enough to need it's own infrastructure on top. If we have 80+lb e-bikes going 28 mph (typical class 3 top speed) next to a 12 year old going 8 mph that's potentially very dangerous.

toyg 3y ago

Most e-bikes are restricted, but unrestricting them is typically trivial - so everyone does. 25mph is extremely dangerous both to people around you and to yourself, when you don't have any protective equipment and no fairings.

the_snooze 3y ago

>Practically all e-bikes are limited to 20-25mph, so practically I don't understand what the difference would be between the two. 20-25 MPH is really fast for a human-powered bike. A reasonably fit person can hit those speeds, but generally only in short bursts and/or favorable terrain. I ride into work everyday through mildly uphill paths, and I only average 13 MPH on a good day (closer to 12 on most). The practical difference is that a throttle-equipped e-bike allows someone to sustain high speeds, regardless of fitness level or terrain. An e-bike rider can (and do) mindlessly go at max speed when human-powered bikes naturally can't.