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Well, ask yourself: if you're Amazon and you have the choice to spend money getting ipv6 working properly, or you can make money selling v4 addresses without an

Well, ask yourself: if you're Amazon and you have the choice to spend money getting ipv6 working properly, or you can make money selling v4 addresses without any risk of customers jumping ship, what would you do?

hinata08 3y ago
> without any risk of customers jumping ship actually, changing of cloud services is in the sweet spot of being both manageable, and pretty complex so you won't do it every other day. So if companies are fed up for long enough (or if engineers find it so complicated or costly that they learn to do cloud with something else), they will change. And when they will change, they will never come back. Amazon would be just like AOL or Yahoo (or Jenkins or SVN) or any forgotten giant. Additionally, many companies don't rely on any cloud service so far. One day, when they will eventually implement it, they won't take what has annoyed others. AWS is already more expensive than the services of smaller companies (OVH and the like). So Beware. This change on its own won't make much difference, but they shouldn't be too pushy.
- BaseballPhysics 3y ago
  > actually, changing of cloud services is in the sweet spot of being both manageable, and pretty complex so you won't do it every other day. Exactly. Once you're tied to Amazon's cloud, and especially their managed services, moving away is enormously costly and complex. Early in the cloud game people used to pretend to build abstractions to try to avoid being locked down to a single vendor, but these days that's all but done. The result is AWS is beyond sticky. > So if companies are fed up for long enough (or if engineers find it so complicated or costly that they learn to do cloud with something else), they will change. Which is why Amazon will keep their fees for IPv4 high enough to be profitable but low enough that investing in changing cloud providers isn't worth the cost to their customers. > Additionally, many companies don't rely on any cloud service so far. One day, when they will eventually implement it, they won't take what has annoyed others. No one ever got fired for picking AWS.

hinata08 3y ago

> without any risk of customers jumping ship actually, changing of cloud services is in the sweet spot of being both manageable, and pretty complex so you won't do it every other day. So if companies are fed up for long enough (or if engineers find it so complicated or costly that they learn to do cloud with something else), they will change. And when they will change, they will never come back. Amazon would be just like AOL or Yahoo (or Jenkins or SVN) or any forgotten giant. Additionally, many companies don't rely on any cloud service so far. One day, when they will eventually implement it, they won't take what has annoyed others. AWS is already more expensive than the services of smaller companies (OVH and the like). So Beware. This change on its own won't make much difference, but they shouldn't be too pushy.

BaseballPhysics 3y ago
> actually, changing of cloud services is in the sweet spot of being both manageable, and pretty complex so you won't do it every other day. Exactly. Once you're tied to Amazon's cloud, and especially their managed services, moving away is enormously costly and complex. Early in the cloud game people used to pretend to build abstractions to try to avoid being locked down to a single vendor, but these days that's all but done. The result is AWS is beyond sticky. > So if companies are fed up for long enough (or if engineers find it so complicated or costly that they learn to do cloud with something else), they will change. Which is why Amazon will keep their fees for IPv4 high enough to be profitable but low enough that investing in changing cloud providers isn't worth the cost to their customers. > Additionally, many companies don't rely on any cloud service so far. One day, when they will eventually implement it, they won't take what has annoyed others. No one ever got fired for picking AWS.