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See "strawman fallacy". People absolutely are making false claims, including about entitlement. Your imagining someone to be entitled does not make them so, an

See "strawman fallacy". People absolutely are making false claims, including about entitlement. Your imagining someone to be entitled does not make them so, and your accusation belittles their actual, valid reasoning. It actually shows you to be the one "entitled" to your projected redeclaration of their identity and rationale - implying the accuser (you) is more likely to have narcissistic tendencies than the person holding a potentially shared value-based opinion about the facts being criticised. Furthermore, it's about irrellevant as calling out someone for being "entitled to breathe air" if you catch them criticizing the air's quality.

orf 3y ago
I mean… this is a lot of ink to spill over a comment that did sound incredibly entitled.
soraminazuki 3y ago
> See "strawman fallacy". People absolutely are making false claims, including about entitlement. You certainly demonstrated the fallacy. You took the most absurd interpretation of my words that is possible in a literal sense which happens to be easier for you to mock. Describing someone's behavior as entitled doesn't amount to making a false claim. That's the most obvious interpretation of what I actually said. But you took it to mean that any claim of entitlement can't be false. > Your imagining someone to be entitled does not make them so, and your accusation belittles their actual, valid reasoning. There's no imagination or accusation involved here when the very comment I'm referring to is right here in this very thread. It's a statement of fact. The parts I quoted are ad hominem attacks that accuses someone of neglecting an obligation that objectively doesn't exist. That's the dictionary definition of entitlement. > It actually shows you to be the one "entitled" to your projected redeclaration of their identity and rationale Like misrepresenting my words or calling me "narcissistic?" > potentially shared value-based opinion about the facts being criticised The parts I quoted isn't a fact-based criticism. It's an ad hominem attack. > irrellevant as calling out someone for being "entitled to breathe air" if you catch them criticizing the air's quality Everyone is entitled access to clean air. People have an obligation to keep the air clean. No one is entitled access to free labor, including having your pet features implemented and maintained in a software project. But overall, gosh. How many fallacies, misrepresentations, and personal insults can you pack in such a short comment?

orf 3y ago

I mean… this is a lot of ink to spill over a comment that did sound incredibly entitled.

soraminazuki 3y ago

> See "strawman fallacy". People absolutely are making false claims, including about entitlement. You certainly demonstrated the fallacy. You took the most absurd interpretation of my words that is possible in a literal sense which happens to be easier for you to mock. Describing someone's behavior as entitled doesn't amount to making a false claim. That's the most obvious interpretation of what I actually said. But you took it to mean that any claim of entitlement can't be false. > Your imagining someone to be entitled does not make them so, and your accusation belittles their actual, valid reasoning. There's no imagination or accusation involved here when the very comment I'm referring to is right here in this very thread. It's a statement of fact. The parts I quoted are ad hominem attacks that accuses someone of neglecting an obligation that objectively doesn't exist. That's the dictionary definition of entitlement. > It actually shows you to be the one "entitled" to your projected redeclaration of their identity and rationale Like misrepresenting my words or calling me "narcissistic?" > potentially shared value-based opinion about the facts being criticised The parts I quoted isn't a fact-based criticism. It's an ad hominem attack. > irrellevant as calling out someone for being "entitled to breathe air" if you catch them criticizing the air's quality Everyone is entitled access to clean air. People have an obligation to keep the air clean. No one is entitled access to free labor, including having your pet features implemented and maintained in a software project. But overall, gosh. How many fallacies, misrepresentations, and personal insults can you pack in such a short comment?