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"Apple isn't selling any laptops" wasn't what was said. The original claim was x86 has "thrown in the white flag" and that Apple dominates the laptop market, wh

by arp242 3y ago

"Apple isn't selling any laptops" wasn't what was said. The original claim was x86 has "thrown in the white flag" and that Apple dominates the laptop market, which is a pretty ridiculous claim since x86 is still the vast majority of laptop sales and Windows is still the dominant laptop OS.

havblue 3y ago
I don't personally see MacBooks as a viable platform either right now, but I would say that this looks like a steady decline for windows x86 laptops until Chrome laptops take over or an arm-based windows replacement takes hold. "Hey this isn't a surrender, it's a war of attrition for the next five years!!!"
- arp242 3y ago
  Given that 15-20 years ago almost all laptops were x86/Windows, "decline" is pretty much the only direction the platform could go in. I don't expect either x86 or Windows to go away any time soon – in general I think x86 has been somewhat unfairly maligned, and for most applications (including laptops) it works pretty well and is even the best available choice. I would prefer to say "diversification" or "the existence of actual competition" rather than "decline", as that doesn't imply it's going away.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  > I don't personally see MacBooks as a viable platform either right now But yet Apple is selling millions. Someone must see it as a viable experience.
scarface_74 3y ago
> Apple isn't selling any laptops" wasn't what was said The parent poster said > would never buy an Apple laptop and no one I know has one either What relevance then was there in the statement that the original poster made? > Apple dominates the laptop market, which is a pretty ridiculous claim since x86 is still the vast majority of laptop sales and Windows is still the dominant laptop OS. Nor did I argue otherwise. I merely called out the silliness of the statement that because the parent poster “doesn’t know anyone who owns one” or that because every developer he knows uses a Windows laptop, that his anecdotal experience has any relevance.

by arp242 3y ago

havblue 3y ago

I don't personally see MacBooks as a viable platform either right now, but I would say that this looks like a steady decline for windows x86 laptops until Chrome laptops take over or an arm-based windows replacement takes hold. "Hey this isn't a surrender, it's a war of attrition for the next five years!!!"

arp242 3y ago
Given that 15-20 years ago almost all laptops were x86/Windows, "decline" is pretty much the only direction the platform could go in. I don't expect either x86 or Windows to go away any time soon – in general I think x86 has been somewhat unfairly maligned, and for most applications (including laptops) it works pretty well and is even the best available choice. I would prefer to say "diversification" or "the existence of actual competition" rather than "decline", as that doesn't imply it's going away.
scarface_74 3y ago
> I don't personally see MacBooks as a viable platform either right now But yet Apple is selling millions. Someone must see it as a viable experience.

scarface_74 3y ago

> Apple isn't selling any laptops" wasn't what was said The parent poster said > would never buy an Apple laptop and no one I know has one either What relevance then was there in the statement that the original poster made? > Apple dominates the laptop market, which is a pretty ridiculous claim since x86 is still the vast majority of laptop sales and Windows is still the dominant laptop OS. Nor did I argue otherwise. I merely called out the silliness of the statement that because the parent poster “doesn’t know anyone who owns one” or that because every developer he knows uses a Windows laptop, that his anecdotal experience has any relevance.