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Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph. That is crazy talk. Ebikes are a problem in NYC because no one follows rules in NYC. People a

Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph. That is crazy talk. Ebikes are a problem in NYC because no one follows rules in NYC. People act in any way they want because it's tough to police a city with so many people packed in so densely. This isn't a one thing or the other, you need better rules, and you need to be able to enforce those rules. If you can't enforce them and the rules don't work then you need to change the rules until they do.

jrochkind1 3y ago
> it's tough to police a city with so many people packed in so densely Why would density make policing more difficult?
- dumbfounder 3y ago
  Good point, maybe that makes it easier. At a high enough density I guess you could put a cop on every corner.
- gmadsen 3y ago
  traffic?
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  As police forces approach NYPD size bureaucracy becomes completely debilitating. Extremely hard to have accountability at that scale and once the rank and file realizes that they stop working as hard.
fnfjfk 3y ago
IMO cycling Route 9W (closer to 55mph, not certain of speed limit) in Jersey is much safer than cycling Manhattan (25mph)
lokar 3y ago
The NYPD just does not care
Ylpertnodi 3y ago
>Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph. Not being from there, what is the minimum speed limit (when the road is being shared), and is that based on 'conditions'?
- SauciestGNU 3y ago
  Most roads in the US don't have a minimum speed. The ones that do are expressways where it's already not legal for bicycles or low displacement motorcycles to be. That being said, as a cyclist and ebike rider myself, I stay off roads where the speed limit is higher than 35mph.
nunez 3y ago
To be fair, there are a few stroads in Dallas and Houston suburbs whose speed limit is 55 (and many, many, MANY stroads whose speed limit is 45-50). I gave up cycling for two years when we lived in one of them because of this. I tried to ride, but when I had to get a GoPro on my helmet and saddle and caused delays on the only arterial two-lane (45mph) road in our neighborhood because most drivers won't even try to get close to a cyclist (probably because depth perception), it got too stressful to continue. I'm back on the saddle now that we moved into a significantly more bike-friendly part of town, but saying "Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph" is basically saying that cyclists should ride on their main roads.

jrochkind1 3y ago

> it's tough to police a city with so many people packed in so densely Why would density make policing more difficult?

dumbfounder 3y ago
Good point, maybe that makes it easier. At a high enough density I guess you could put a cop on every corner.
gmadsen 3y ago
traffic?
HDThoreaun 3y ago
As police forces approach NYPD size bureaucracy becomes completely debilitating. Extremely hard to have accountability at that scale and once the rank and file realizes that they stop working as hard.

fnfjfk 3y ago

IMO cycling Route 9W (closer to 55mph, not certain of speed limit) in Jersey is much safer than cycling Manhattan (25mph)

lokar 3y ago

The NYPD just does not care

Ylpertnodi 3y ago

>Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph. Not being from there, what is the minimum speed limit (when the road is being shared), and is that based on 'conditions'?

SauciestGNU 3y ago
Most roads in the US don't have a minimum speed. The ones that do are expressways where it's already not legal for bicycles or low displacement motorcycles to be. That being said, as a cyclist and ebike rider myself, I stay off roads where the speed limit is higher than 35mph.

nunez 3y ago

To be fair, there are a few stroads in Dallas and Houston suburbs whose speed limit is 55 (and many, many, MANY stroads whose speed limit is 45-50). I gave up cycling for two years when we lived in one of them because of this. I tried to ride, but when I had to get a GoPro on my helmet and saddle and caused delays on the only arterial two-lane (45mph) road in our neighborhood because most drivers won't even try to get close to a cyclist (probably because depth perception), it got too stressful to continue. I'm back on the saddle now that we moved into a significantly more bike-friendly part of town, but saying "Bikes shouldn't be sharing the road when the speed limit is 55mph" is basically saying that cyclists should ride on their main roads.