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> > This reminds me of the same types of complaints around air travel now versus the 50s/60s The huge difference compared to banck then is TSA, for cultural re

> > This reminds me of the same types of complaints around air travel now versus the 50s/60s The huge difference compared to banck then is TSA, for cultural reasons I don't think many people would complain about not being able to smoke on board or the fact that planes are a tad slower. Air travel completely changed because for some reason ill intentioned people decided to bring their ill intentions to fruition on a plane instead of a train. As a matter of fact the same group targeted trains in Madrid and London as well as malls, but the assumption is that since trains and malls cannot be defended fatalism is not only authorized, but it's the only game in town. Stark comparison to the process you have to undertake to catch a plane, where you have to provide an x-ray of your bowels before being allowed to board. In the 50s and 60s where you could board first and then purchase the ticket on board....can you imagine something like this today?

BeetleB 3y ago
I think what GP was referring to were the larger seats, more leg room, free meals, and a few other perks.
- dustincoates 3y ago
  Precisely. If you want a high-end dinner and an open bar with a lay-down bed while you fly, well you pay for it, and if you fly Emirates, you can even have a shower thrown in.
  - BeetleB 3y ago
    I want to fly from LA to NY with these amenities. Will Emirates fly me there?
    - dustincoates 3y ago
      You're not getting a shower or a stand up bar, but the rest, sure: https://www.cntraveler.com/story/where-to-find-lie-flat-seats-on-domestic-flights https://www.cntraveler.com/story/where-to-find-lie-flat-seat... (I even had a nice salmon meal on my last business flight between Austin to LAX, in fact, which seemed opulent, but I wasn't complaining!)
      - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
        This sort of quality of life bump for the few pales compared to the huge improvement for the many if we only accepted that it was just a coincidence that 9/11 happened with planes. Cities, especially metro stations, malls and stadiums are much more dense and packed than planes are and yet we are much more confident about getting in there than we are about planes Doesn’t make any logical sense

BeetleB 3y ago

I think what GP was referring to were the larger seats, more leg room, free meals, and a few other perks.

dustincoates 3y ago
Precisely. If you want a high-end dinner and an open bar with a lay-down bed while you fly, well you pay for it, and if you fly Emirates, you can even have a shower thrown in.
- BeetleB 3y ago
  I want to fly from LA to NY with these amenities. Will Emirates fly me there?
  - dustincoates 3y ago
    You're not getting a shower or a stand up bar, but the rest, sure: https://www.cntraveler.com/story/where-to-find-lie-flat-seats-on-domestic-flights https://www.cntraveler.com/story/where-to-find-lie-flat-seat... (I even had a nice salmon meal on my last business flight between Austin to LAX, in fact, which seemed opulent, but I wasn't complaining!)
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      This sort of quality of life bump for the few pales compared to the huge improvement for the many if we only accepted that it was just a coincidence that 9/11 happened with planes. Cities, especially metro stations, malls and stadiums are much more dense and packed than planes are and yet we are much more confident about getting in there than we are about planes Doesn’t make any logical sense