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There's likely a market for office workers since there's a significant reduction of stress on the eyes. You'd save about 0.5 kwh a day in electricity, more if

There's likely a market for office workers since there's a significant reduction of stress on the eyes. You'd save about 0.5 kwh a day in electricity, more if the AC is running. So I could see them becoming popular once the price comes down. People who run 2 monitors might be interested as well.

CharlesW 3y ago
> There's likely a market for office workers since there's a significant reduction of stress on the eyes. There may be, but some studies have shown there's little difference. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/ Methods: Participants read for several hours on either e-Ink or LCD, and different measures of reading behaviour and visual strain were regularly recorded. These dependent measures included subjective (visual) fatigue, a letter search task, reading speed, oculomotor behaviour and the pupillary light reflex. Results: Results suggested that reading on the two display types is very similar in terms of both subjective and objective measures.
chrisco255 3y ago
There is a significant reduction in color depth and refresh rate, plus a need to provide external lighting to make up for the lack of built-in lighting, which, depending on the office environment may cancel out any power savings.
- mdp2021 3y ago
  > lack of built-in lighting That depends on the environment. Natural light fights against the functioning of light-emitting displays. Reflective displays cooperate with natural light. You in the dark? Use OLED. Under the sun? Use EPD.
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    As kindle devices have shown though, you can backlight an e-ink display too
    - mdp2021 3y ago
      > you can backlight an e-ink display too And you could read OLED at noon in the tropics under an umbrella (I know I did) - but I was exactly talking about optimal use. -- A good scientist can file with a saw and saw with a file ~~~ Ben Franklin A wise guy does not, unless necessary ~~~ We, here and now
    - mholm 3y ago
      This is technically a frontlight. The panel contains a diffuser and has LEDs at all edges of the display.
  - chrisco255 3y ago
    I don't know too many people operating desktop computers under the sun. They are usually situated indoors, often distant from any window access. Anyways the point stands that additional lighting discounts any power savings from using e-ink in a desktop environment. I get the use case for e-ink in the field. This product is not for in-field use.
    - mdp2021 3y ago
      > usually HN is nth standard deviation sensitive. There is always market for some. > additional lighting discounts any power savings Not necessarily. Lighting today can cost fractions of watts, and on the other hands EPD can be energy costly - it depends on how many cell updates you are causing. So, the matter is probably less with energy consumption, and more about getting a better effect based on user and environment. > This product is not for in-field use Sure, it does not seem specific. But it can have its places. Be it some production site - maybe a quarry near the tropics -, be it personal - maybe you want to do some work in your garden...

CharlesW 3y ago

> There's likely a market for office workers since there's a significant reduction of stress on the eyes. There may be, but some studies have shown there's little difference. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/ Methods: Participants read for several hours on either e-Ink or LCD, and different measures of reading behaviour and visual strain were regularly recorded. These dependent measures included subjective (visual) fatigue, a letter search task, reading speed, oculomotor behaviour and the pupillary light reflex. Results: Results suggested that reading on the two display types is very similar in terms of both subjective and objective measures.

chrisco255 3y ago

There is a significant reduction in color depth and refresh rate, plus a need to provide external lighting to make up for the lack of built-in lighting, which, depending on the office environment may cancel out any power savings.

mdp2021 3y ago
> lack of built-in lighting That depends on the environment. Natural light fights against the functioning of light-emitting displays. Reflective displays cooperate with natural light. You in the dark? Use OLED. Under the sun? Use EPD.
- no_wizard 3y ago
  As kindle devices have shown though, you can backlight an e-ink display too
  - mdp2021 3y ago
    > you can backlight an e-ink display too And you could read OLED at noon in the tropics under an umbrella (I know I did) - but I was exactly talking about optimal use. -- A good scientist can file with a saw and saw with a file ~~~ Ben Franklin A wise guy does not, unless necessary ~~~ We, here and now
  - mholm 3y ago
    This is technically a frontlight. The panel contains a diffuser and has LEDs at all edges of the display.
- chrisco255 3y ago
  I don't know too many people operating desktop computers under the sun. They are usually situated indoors, often distant from any window access. Anyways the point stands that additional lighting discounts any power savings from using e-ink in a desktop environment. I get the use case for e-ink in the field. This product is not for in-field use.
  - mdp2021 3y ago
    > usually HN is nth standard deviation sensitive. There is always market for some. > additional lighting discounts any power savings Not necessarily. Lighting today can cost fractions of watts, and on the other hands EPD can be energy costly - it depends on how many cell updates you are causing. So, the matter is probably less with energy consumption, and more about getting a better effect based on user and environment. > This product is not for in-field use Sure, it does not seem specific. But it can have its places. Be it some production site - maybe a quarry near the tropics -, be it personal - maybe you want to do some work in your garden...