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See: Samsung fridges. A huge touchscreen and a water pump/ice maker that will fail in <5 years are standard.
by vGPU 3y ago
See: Samsung fridges. A huge touchscreen and a water pump/ice maker that will fail in <5 years are standard.
- drcongo 3y agoMy Samsung fridge is the worst thing I've ever bought.
- firesteelrain 3y agoAgree. Mine lasted 6 years. Replaced with a Whirlpool. Lowe's sales rep told us at the time that the Samsung's were great. I went back 6 years later and told him that we bought a Samsung from him 6 years ago when he told us 6 years later not to buy a Samsung. Needless to say, he was apologetic. Now, my Bosch dishwasher has been solid. No issues.
- usefulcat 3y ago> Now, my Bosch dishwasher has been solid. No issues. Seconded, and also confirmed by an appliance repair tech when I asked him about his opinion of the reliability of our various kitchen appliances.
- pfdietz 3y agoWe've had very good experience with Bosch dishwashers.
- brewdad 3y agoMy only complaint with mine is that, since it doesn't have a heated drying cycle to conserve energy, dishes are sometimes still quite wet when it comes time to put them away. I've found using the recommended rinse agent and putting them away within an hour of the wash cycle finishing helps tremendously. Since the thing runs at only 41dB, I don't mind running it any time of day. EDIT: typos
- pfdietz 3y agoDoes yours pop the door open when it finishes? Mine does, which lets the dishes dry more after that happens.
- arethuza 3y agoThe Bosch dishwasher in our house lasted about 15 years and was fairly repairable - ultimately it got an electrical fault that I wasn't confident fixing so we got a new one and chose another Bosch.
- julian_t 3y agoFor us, it's Miele. Washer and dryer are >20 yrs old, and the tech who came to fix a leak said they'll keep going. Dishwasher is about 10 yrs old, also going good. The Panasonic microwave/combo ovens, though, last about 3 years before expiring.
- soco 3y agoMy 5 years old fancy double door Bosch refrigerator had every year the touchscreen replaced. That's 6 touchscreens - first ones under warranty, latest out of pocket (and I learned to replace it myself). The bulk of it is still fine, but such details kinda ruin the experience. PS no I'm not hitting it, the warranty technician knew the problem.
- firesteelrain 3y agoLowe's sales rep said Bosche refrigerator's stink. Whirlpool I have seems to be OK for now (I have all Whirlpool other than dishwasher now in my house)
- mholm 3y agoThe worst part is that sometimes less price conscious customers will also get tempted in, because they're the only ones trying to push fridge features forward. The 'beverage center' door with a 64oz pitcher that gets refilled on close, allowing you to quickly pour whatever you want, then stow it back in the door to be refilled, is the greatest feature I've ever experienced on a fridge. It just pains me that if I get the fridge, I know it'll only last a few years.
- pram 3y agoAgreed, I have the automatic pitcher fridge and it’s so convenient I wouldn’t consider one without it now.
- FeteCommuniste 3y agoInteresting. My Samsung TV will soon be 14 years old and still works perfectly. I wonder if there’s a general degradation of their products or it’s a kitchen appliance thing.
- WorldMaker 3y agoSamsung is an especially weird example because they always seem to be pendulum swinging between both poles. Some of their products some years use Tizen as the OS. Tizen is interesting and mostly rock solid, but has fewer aps. Some of their products some years use Android. Everyone knows what Android is, and it has tons of apps, but between Samsung's deep customizations and other factors, Android on Samsung products isn't always the best experience (less likely to be "rock solid", more questions about update support lifetimes, etc). Which products are which each year, from my consumer perspective, seems to be based on some sort of random number generator or other whims of weather in the executive suite that isn't visible from outside. (One visible factor, though, is the variable of how much money Google has thrown at them recently.)
- mrguyorama 3y agoSamsung appliances are really bad in terms of reliability it seems. Every single dishwasher they make is seemingly designed to have a certain "dirty water" sensor replaced every couple of years. My father has installed like 5 of these things, and they all fail in the exact same way in the exact same time frame. But he doesn't care because he thinks they are really quiet (so what) and he often gets them cheap and "it's a cheap part and an easy fix" (for you it is)
- ljf 3y agoBut they also do entirely plain units that last well with no 'extras' - their commercial units are also great and easy to repair. But most people want to spend as little as they can so avoid the commercial units.
- bombcar 3y agoThis is it - high quality stuff is often still made, but it's expensive and/or has other downsides that you really do need to be aware of. For example, commercial equipment is often bullet-proof and long-lived, but it can be louder than you'd want in a home kitchen. Commercial dish washers have no noise insulation, get hot, but can wash dishes so fast they can crack them from the temperature changes. Commercial ovens have no or minimal heat insulation, so when you fire them up you can really warm up a room fast, and they have to be installed away from flammable materials. And people need to be honest about it, too - whenever you buy an appliance new, write the purchase date in indelible ink or spray paint on the back of the unit, because I've had appliances I was sure "lasted barely more than the warranty" and then I realized I'd purchased it 15 years ago.
- veave 3y agoSurely high quality stuff is cheaper than it was 50 years ago when adjusted for inflation.
- LorenPechtel 3y agoExcept in many cases it's simply not available.
- usefulcat 3y ago> Commercial ovens have no or minimal heat insulation This seems counter intuitive to me. Why would I not want more insulation in an oven that's going to be used a lot more? Seems like the cost of the insulation would be amortized more quickly than in a home kitchen, since a commercial oven is presumably being used a lot more?
- gruez 3y ago>See: Samsung fridges. A huge touchscreen and a water pump/ice maker that will fail in <5 years are standard. They still make models that aren't like that[1]. In fact last time I bought a fridge I specifically looked for a model without those features because they're known points of failure and I don't use them. [1] https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-25-cu-ft-33-3-door-french-door-refrigerator-stainless-steel/6529227.p?skuId=6529227 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-25-cu-ft-33-3-door-fren...
- secabeen 3y agoThis one is a french door model, which means a complicated double-door latching interface. Single-door is even simpler still, and half the price! You pay almost $700 just for the french door element.
- MisterTea 3y agoI saw a Samsung floor model at Home Depot with a frozen screen and Android error message. "Stick a chip in it" needs to die a fast yet horrid and painful death.
- devonbleak 3y agoI used to think extended warranties were bullshit. Then I bought the Samsung fridge with the huge touchscreen and the water pump/ice maker.