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Maybe someone should dig out the EU browser bundling anti-trust case Microsoft lost in the early 2000s and enforce it.

by cutler 3y ago

rhaway84773 3y ago
There’s a reason why MS is doing this stuff now. The probationary period they were under has now expired. Someone will indeed need to sue them again to make them behave reasonably.
- cutler 3y ago
  You know, every time I start-up VS Code something inside me bristles, having lived through web development in the late 90s when hole-ridden, M$-only IE ruled supreme and M$ deliberately flaunted web standards to enure all those company intranet apps built on IE would be incompatible with anything else. I never quite bought the Satya Nadella, Linux friendly revolution given how soon it followed a period when MS ruthlessly pursuded Linux companies such as Suse and Red Hat with their bogus patent racket. Then there was their thinly-veiled financing of SCO's gruelling UNIX patent lawsuit which, thankfully, failed. So I'm not surprised to see M$ reverting back to their original game from the Ballmer era. WSL - you all fell for it. It was just another round of good old M$ Embrace and Extend.
wffurr 3y ago
Can we enforce it on all OS to allow changing default apps? Thinking of Safari on iOS…
- jamil7 3y ago
  You've been able to change the default browser on iOS for quite a while now. The underlying browser engine is the same, but non-technical users don't care and just want to sync bookmarks/passwords from Chrome/Firefox.
  - darksfall 3y ago
    Well then that's not changing the browser then is it? It's merely changing the 'window dressing' or facade that is the 'chrome' around the iOS web rendering engine.
    - jamil7 3y ago
      I think I addressed this in the comment. To clear, I'm not a fan of Apple's policy on this and think they should allow other engines. Having said that, I think for 99% of users, the underling web rendering engine is an implementation detail they aren't concerned with.
      - Shawnj2 3y ago
        The funny thing is that this policy is one of the few things keeping WebKit alive, if not Chromium would become the only usable browser engine (and Firefox but people would probably stop supporting it if it was the only alternative browser)

Maybe someone should dig out the EU browser bundling anti-trust case Microsoft lost in the early 2000s and enforce it.

by cutler 3y ago

Maybe someone should dig out the EU browser bundling anti-trust case Microsoft lost in the early 2000s and enforce it.

There’s a reason why MS is doing this stuff now. The probationary period they were under has now expired. Someone will indeed need to sue them again to make them behave reasonably.

cutler 3y ago
You know, every time I start-up VS Code something inside me bristles, having lived through web development in the late 90s when hole-ridden, M$-only IE ruled supreme and M$ deliberately flaunted web standards to enure all those company intranet apps built on IE would be incompatible with anything else. I never quite bought the Satya Nadella, Linux friendly revolution given how soon it followed a period when MS ruthlessly pursuded Linux companies such as Suse and Red Hat with their bogus patent racket. Then there was their thinly-veiled financing of SCO's gruelling UNIX patent lawsuit which, thankfully, failed. So I'm not surprised to see M$ reverting back to their original game from the Ballmer era. WSL - you all fell for it. It was just another round of good old M$ Embrace and Extend.

wffurr 3y ago

Can we enforce it on all OS to allow changing default apps? Thinking of Safari on iOS…

jamil7 3y ago
You've been able to change the default browser on iOS for quite a while now. The underlying browser engine is the same, but non-technical users don't care and just want to sync bookmarks/passwords from Chrome/Firefox.
- darksfall 3y ago
  Well then that's not changing the browser then is it? It's merely changing the 'window dressing' or facade that is the 'chrome' around the iOS web rendering engine.
  - jamil7 3y ago
    I think I addressed this in the comment. To clear, I'm not a fan of Apple's policy on this and think they should allow other engines. Having said that, I think for 99% of users, the underling web rendering engine is an implementation detail they aren't concerned with.
    - Shawnj2 3y ago
      The funny thing is that this policy is one of the few things keeping WebKit alive, if not Chromium would become the only usable browser engine (and Firefox but people would probably stop supporting it if it was the only alternative browser)