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Cool your jets there, Maverick. It's not even clear from the article what was illegal about the lab, much less that China was operating it. You can't just say

Cool your jets there, Maverick. It's not even clear from the article what was illegal about the lab, much less that China was operating it. You can't just say "illegal lab," "COVID-19 virus," and some random Chinese name and jump to those conclusions.

georgeplusplus 3y ago
It's pretty compelling at this point that a chinese lab had a significant undertaking in the development and spread of covid and if you're looking for a 100% undeniable explanation it doesn't exist because that opportunity to investigate is long gone and the Chinese gov forbade anyone from doing a meaningful investigation. Also complicating the truth coming out is that the USA likely played a part through NIH funding the Wuhan lab. Why anyone acts like it's a conspiracy at this point is pretty funny. This is certainly the time to be skeptical.
yumraj 3y ago
Occam’s Razor: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresn... An investigation found the tenant was Prestige BioTech, a company registered in Nevada and unlicensed for business in California. City officials spoke with Xiuquin Yao, who was identified as the company president, through emails included in the court documents. Yao told officials that Prestige BioTech moved assets belonging to a defunct company, Universal Meditech Inc., to the Reedley warehouse from Fresno after UMI went under. Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its successor, according to court documents. Officials were unable to get any California-based address for either company except for the previous Fresno location from which UMI had been evicted. "The other addresses provided for identified authorized agents were either empty offices or addresses in China that could not be verified," court documents said.
- Paul-Craft 3y ago
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  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    Addresses for registered agents that turn out to be empty offices? That is not nothing. It's something shady. It's hard to tell, just from that, what specifically it is, but it's not nothing.
    - Paul-Craft 3y ago
      Oh, sure, it's definitely something with respect to the idea that things aren't exactly above board here, but it's a pile of nothing with respect to the idea that the Chinese government has anything to do with the lab. It could honestly be anything from Mafia to terrorism to just some shady business dealings. Evidence doesn't really point in any particular direction just yet.
  - rhaway84773 3y ago
    If Occam’s razor leads to a conspiracy theory then Occam’s Razor has lost all meaning. Which unfortunately has happened at least on the internet. It’s literally become the new literally :-)
    - bratgpttamer 3y ago
      Holding Occam's Razor constant, perhaps the meaning of "conspiracy theory" has been expanded. Not everything has a causal chain that's 100.0% provable with publicly-available evidence. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
  - whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
    These are not cheap mice. Someone paid for the mice and it wasn’t a scientist.
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georgeplusplus 3y ago

It's pretty compelling at this point that a chinese lab had a significant undertaking in the development and spread of covid and if you're looking for a 100% undeniable explanation it doesn't exist because that opportunity to investigate is long gone and the Chinese gov forbade anyone from doing a meaningful investigation. Also complicating the truth coming out is that the USA likely played a part through NIH funding the Wuhan lab. Why anyone acts like it's a conspiracy at this point is pretty funny. This is certainly the time to be skeptical.

yumraj 3y ago

Occam’s Razor: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresno-warehouse-was-site-illegal-laboratory-rcna96756 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-believe-fresn... An investigation found the tenant was Prestige BioTech, a company registered in Nevada and unlicensed for business in California. City officials spoke with Xiuquin Yao, who was identified as the company president, through emails included in the court documents. Yao told officials that Prestige BioTech moved assets belonging to a defunct company, Universal Meditech Inc., to the Reedley warehouse from Fresno after UMI went under. Prestige Biotech was a creditor to UMI and identified as its successor, according to court documents. Officials were unable to get any California-based address for either company except for the previous Fresno location from which UMI had been evicted. "The other addresses provided for identified authorized agents were either empty offices or addresses in China that could not be verified," court documents said.

Paul-Craft 3y ago
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- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  Addresses for registered agents that turn out to be empty offices? That is not nothing. It's something shady. It's hard to tell, just from that, what specifically it is, but it's not nothing.
  - Paul-Craft 3y ago
    Oh, sure, it's definitely something with respect to the idea that things aren't exactly above board here, but it's a pile of nothing with respect to the idea that the Chinese government has anything to do with the lab. It could honestly be anything from Mafia to terrorism to just some shady business dealings. Evidence doesn't really point in any particular direction just yet.
- rhaway84773 3y ago
  If Occam’s razor leads to a conspiracy theory then Occam’s Razor has lost all meaning. Which unfortunately has happened at least on the internet. It’s literally become the new literally :-)
  - bratgpttamer 3y ago
    Holding Occam's Razor constant, perhaps the meaning of "conspiracy theory" has been expanded. Not everything has a causal chain that's 100.0% provable with publicly-available evidence. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability
- whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
  These are not cheap mice. Someone paid for the mice and it wasn’t a scientist.
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