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@tags are just one of many features, and the lack of a matching user on the import side isn't a critical issue: a link back to the original post instead suffice

@tags are just one of many features, and the lack of a matching user on the import side isn't a critical issue: a link back to the original post instead suffices. And regardless, Twitter-alikes aren't the only thing worth considering. Exporting all of one's video data from YouTube, or all of one's comments from Reddit, or all of one's search history (and Google Voice texts, and Docs documents, and etc.) from Google are all usecases that fall under these data moats that are useful to be able to take with you and move to another service. There's probably more usecases I'm not even thinking of, but the point is that by exposing all the data by mandate, we don't have to be limited by the imagination of today, we have the data, we can build whatever future frontends and replacement services and etc. we want.

arielcostas 3y ago
To be fair, Google is one of the few services that best support taking your data away by using their "Google Takeout" tool. YouTube videos, Photos, whatever, downloaded from a single website in ZIPs, TARs or whatever. Microsoft doesn't have such tool for OneDrive, Outlook or their services in general, so downloading 1D docs means going to the website, selecting then and pressing "download". For Outlook emails... well, good luck
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Yet even Google itself lacks import capabilities, even for the very portable export formats they generate. And this is understandable, because en masse imports are undoubtedly a security issue. As for OneDrive and Outlook exports, if only there were a way to synchronize data to a client. Oh well.
  - arielcostas 3y ago
    > Yet even Google itself lacks import capabilities, even for the very portable export formats they generate. And this is understandable, because en masse imports are undoubtedly a security issue. Depends... Under their POV, why would anyone want to import stuff to a Google account en masse if they already have it on their "original" acc? > As for OneDrive and Outlook exports, if only there were a way to synchronize data to a client. Oh well. There are OneDrive clients for Windows, Android (and I guess Apple systems too), but it's still less convenient than downloading a single ZIP. Using the official client means I need to copy the stuff to my local drive first, and then compress it if I want to store it in a more efficient way.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      > why would anyone want to import stuff to a Google account I have 3 personal Google accounts, and that doesn't count my work and school Google accounts. It is conceivable that I'd want to move at least a few things around among them. Also, it is conceivable that someone could write up a utility that prepped arbitrary types of data for import into an arbitrary Google property. Whether it's JSON or XML or whatever, I could see there being use cases for importing data that has not yet been in a Google account at all.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > Google is one of the few services that best support taking your data away by using their "Google Takeout" tool. YouTube videos, Photos, whatever, downloaded from a single website in ZIPs, TARs or whatever. Agreed. The bigger issue is relying on a broadcast-esque provider as your sole storer of video. If your account gets blocked somehow (or locked out) then you're done for. Have a separate, storage-only video account and push to YouTube as well.
  - arielcostas 3y ago
    Yeah, I mean, you should totally store your videos somewhere that can't lock you out for no reason. Whether that is a hard drive, an S3 glacier bucket (which I believe must give you at least 24 hours warning before they can cut you off) or anything else, you should keep a copy that you and only you control, instead of being at Google's mercy.

arielcostas 3y ago

To be fair, Google is one of the few services that best support taking your data away by using their "Google Takeout" tool. YouTube videos, Photos, whatever, downloaded from a single website in ZIPs, TARs or whatever. Microsoft doesn't have such tool for OneDrive, Outlook or their services in general, so downloading 1D docs means going to the website, selecting then and pressing "download". For Outlook emails... well, good luck

NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
Yet even Google itself lacks import capabilities, even for the very portable export formats they generate. And this is understandable, because en masse imports are undoubtedly a security issue. As for OneDrive and Outlook exports, if only there were a way to synchronize data to a client. Oh well.
- arielcostas 3y ago
  > Yet even Google itself lacks import capabilities, even for the very portable export formats they generate. And this is understandable, because en masse imports are undoubtedly a security issue. Depends... Under their POV, why would anyone want to import stuff to a Google account en masse if they already have it on their "original" acc? > As for OneDrive and Outlook exports, if only there were a way to synchronize data to a client. Oh well. There are OneDrive clients for Windows, Android (and I guess Apple systems too), but it's still less convenient than downloading a single ZIP. Using the official client means I need to copy the stuff to my local drive first, and then compress it if I want to store it in a more efficient way.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    > why would anyone want to import stuff to a Google account I have 3 personal Google accounts, and that doesn't count my work and school Google accounts. It is conceivable that I'd want to move at least a few things around among them. Also, it is conceivable that someone could write up a utility that prepped arbitrary types of data for import into an arbitrary Google property. Whether it's JSON or XML or whatever, I could see there being use cases for importing data that has not yet been in a Google account at all.
robertlagrant 3y ago
> Google is one of the few services that best support taking your data away by using their "Google Takeout" tool. YouTube videos, Photos, whatever, downloaded from a single website in ZIPs, TARs or whatever. Agreed. The bigger issue is relying on a broadcast-esque provider as your sole storer of video. If your account gets blocked somehow (or locked out) then you're done for. Have a separate, storage-only video account and push to YouTube as well.
- arielcostas 3y ago
  Yeah, I mean, you should totally store your videos somewhere that can't lock you out for no reason. Whether that is a hard drive, an S3 glacier bucket (which I believe must give you at least 24 hours warning before they can cut you off) or anything else, you should keep a copy that you and only you control, instead of being at Google's mercy.