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It's not nonsense, it's my opinion - having used outlook. I simply don't understand how anyone can bear to use outlook. If I was forced in the workplace to use
by axod 18y ago
It's not nonsense, it's my opinion - having used outlook. I simply don't understand how anyone can bear to use outlook.
If I was forced in the workplace to use it, I'd quit. Same with IE6. If a company forces you to use either of those, they're clearly not going to be around very long.
- greyman 18y agoWhat exactly is so unbearable about Outlook?
- martin 18y agoIf you'd quit a job because of the mail client on your desktop, that's your right. A colleague of mine recently gave notice because she didn't like the coffee in the cafeteria, and that was her right too. Like it or not, Outlook and Exchange are still the best-in-class solution for enterprise messaging, which is why they're used. If you can't understand why that is, then I hope you've never worked in an enterprise. Perhaps you'd prefer Lotus Notes? I'm not a Microsoft fanboy by any means; I have a Mac and use Gmail every day. But being able to put aside one's biases and pick the right tool for the job is the difference between an IT professional and a zealot.
- axod 18y agoWhat does Outlook do well for "enterprise messaging"? What does "enterprise messaging" even mean? BTW I would rather change career than become an "IT professional".
- martin 18y agoIntegrated groupware services, including email, calendaring/scheduling, global address list, distribution lists, folder/calendar sharing, distribution lists. Built-in webmail, mobile services, out-of-office. Integration support for Blackberry for push messaging, enterprise IM (LCS), anti-spam and anti-virus services, voice messaging, fax messaging... the list goes on. Obviously, practically none of this is stuff you can't find elsewhere. But if you know of a single other offering as complete as Exchange, I'd love to hear about it. And perhaps the biggest point of all: extensive integration with Active Directory, which is the directory service of choice in a huge percentage of enterprises.
- axod 18y agoI'm scared now. I never want to work in a corporation again. Ever.
- coliveira 18y agoThe reason there is no other software with exactly these features is that only people in IT departments (thanks to MS brainwash) really think these features need to be sold together. It is just like creating a beast with 800 heads, which will kill anyone that touches it. The result is that every one of the services you mentioned is poorly implemented in Exchange. The real solution is to use open standards to create applications in each of those areas that can really solve individual problems. That is how software that really works is created. Thanks to M$, we are far away from a decent solution in these terms.
- martin 18y agoOK, only people in IT departments want integrated solutions. Except they're the ones buying the software. So what's the problem? Integration is not a bad thing. If you don't like the way Microsoft does it -- whether it be the quality of their implementation, or their disregard for standards compliance, or whatever -- that's cool, and I don't even disagree. But business decisions are made based on the bottom line, not on ideology. If Exchange meets the business requirements, and is cheaper to administer than a hodgepodge of other technologies, pragmatically it just doesn't matter if it doesn't implement IMAP exactly to spec. I'm not a big fan of MS, but they're just giving the market what it wants here. If you can do better, please do.
- wensing 18y agoIf a company forces you to use either of those, they're clearly not going to be around very long. Sorry, I really would like to agree with you, but there are plenty of companies with IE6+Outlook worker bees that show no signs of dying anytime soon.