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Eliminating 'suburbia' is even more distasteful to voters than forcibly taking away meat. While city life can be attractive to young and single people, people

Eliminating 'suburbia' is even more distasteful to voters than forcibly taking away meat. While city life can be attractive to young and single people, people don't want to be forced to live in Mega-City One, especially as they grow older and have families.

failuser 3y ago
If people don’t want to live there why are big cities so damn expensive?
- bluescrn 3y ago
  Job insecurity encourages people to live where there's a high density of jobs
Teever 3y ago
Why is your perception of this so black and white? Why can't we have environments that are somewhere between dystopian 'mega-city one' and unsustainable Las Vegas suburbs?
Ericson2314 3y ago
We don't need to eliminate suburbia by fiat, we just need to build way more urbia. See https://www.niskanencenter.org/sprawl-can-be-good-actually-expand-the-metropolitan-commute-zone-to-grow-housing-supply/ https://www.niskanencenter.org/sprawl-can-be-good-actually-e... where calling it "sprawl" is actually a massive troll because promoting walkable small towns connected by rail as they have in Europe (or America in the ~1920s) is nothing at all like our car-oriented sprawl.
wk_end 3y ago
I don't think you're wrong about the optics or political viability, unfortunately, but there's a million urban designs in between Kowloon Walled City and "I have to drive twenty minutes through a wasteland of lawns and detached houses to go to Starbucks".
myshpa 3y ago
Urban & built up land is 1% of habitable earth. Animal agriculture is 35% (80% of all agriculture lands). https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use Both are destructive for our environment. But one is worse that the other.
panick21_ 3y ago
Europe has 'suburbs' that are not suburbia. The idea that everybody would be forced to live in a mega city that is just a single skyscraper is just suberia imagination of what the world be like if not 90% of the land was zoned single family.

failuser 3y ago

If people don’t want to live there why are big cities so damn expensive?

bluescrn 3y ago
Job insecurity encourages people to live where there's a high density of jobs

Teever 3y ago

Why is your perception of this so black and white? Why can't we have environments that are somewhere between dystopian 'mega-city one' and unsustainable Las Vegas suburbs?

Ericson2314 3y ago

We don't need to eliminate suburbia by fiat, we just need to build way more urbia. See https://www.niskanencenter.org/sprawl-can-be-good-actually-expand-the-metropolitan-commute-zone-to-grow-housing-supply/ https://www.niskanencenter.org/sprawl-can-be-good-actually-e... where calling it "sprawl" is actually a massive troll because promoting walkable small towns connected by rail as they have in Europe (or America in the ~1920s) is nothing at all like our car-oriented sprawl.

wk_end 3y ago

I don't think you're wrong about the optics or political viability, unfortunately, but there's a million urban designs in between Kowloon Walled City and "I have to drive twenty minutes through a wasteland of lawns and detached houses to go to Starbucks".

myshpa 3y ago

Urban & built up land is 1% of habitable earth. Animal agriculture is 35% (80% of all agriculture lands). https://ourworldindata.org/land-use https://ourworldindata.org/land-use Both are destructive for our environment. But one is worse that the other.

panick21_ 3y ago

Europe has 'suburbs' that are not suburbia. The idea that everybody would be forced to live in a mega city that is just a single skyscraper is just suberia imagination of what the world be like if not 90% of the land was zoned single family.