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> The democratic successes are equally good - South Africa I'm not sure how rampant official corruption, cronyism, a skyrocketing murder rate [1], crumbling in
by A_D_E_P_T 3y ago
> The democratic successes are equally good - South Africa
I'm not sure how rampant official corruption, cronyism, a skyrocketing murder rate [1], crumbling infrastructure, dwindling regional influence, and a deeply polarized civil society can be considered a democratic "success".
[1] - https://www.groundup.org.za/article/how-bad-murder-in-south-africa/ https://www.groundup.org.za/article/how-bad-murder-in-south-...
At 46 murders per 100k per year, it might just be the worst intentional murder rate in the world right now.
- bruce511 3y agoClearly south Africa has problems. But Apartheid was a problem several magnitudes larger. World pariah status, 80% of the population subjugated, colonialism at its worst. Democracy (the White vote in 1990), the national vote in 1994, lead to a revolution without a civil war. Of course it has not lead to utopia, and democracy has challenges there, as it does elsewhere, but the authoritarian regimes before were far, far worse.
- twelve40 3y agoYou really have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to call it a great success. I'd say it's actually a curious example of democracy failing miserably, and worth studying how to avoid that.
- spamizbad 3y agoThe alternative would’ve resulted in it ending up like Rhodesia (a country that no longer exists)