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If the US still made things and still made children, it could do a lot better than it is.

abracadaniel 3y ago
US manufacturing is an all time high and the population is still growing. China has been below replacement levels for birth rate long enough that their population is actually shrinking.
- OO000oo 3y ago
  The US makes almost nothing on its own and I expect you know that, and the US population would be shrinking at a suicidal rate if not for mass human labor trafficking from the 3rd world.
- howmayiannoyyou 3y ago
  This is absurdly incorrect in the context of the article. As just one example - the US shuttered more than half of its ship building capacity after the Soviet Union fell. You cannot convert a foreign owned Toyota auto assembly plant into a shipyard. And, it would be nice if US economic stats made a distinction between manufacturing and assembly. A lot of what you call manufacturing is simply the low skilled combining of parts made overseas.
  - mcphage 3y ago
    > You cannot convert a foreign owned Toyota auto assembly plant into a shipyard. As long as it’s in the US—yeah, you can.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      The US government coming in and forcibly taking control of a Toyota auto assembly plant located on US soil won't do anything to move it 320 miles down 65 from Huntsville, Alabama to the (gulf) coast. I'm no shipbuilder, but I get the impression that shipyards are typically near the ocean.
      - mcphage 3y ago
        Oh, if the issue at hand is because of its physical location, then you're right, although it could still manufacture parts. I thought the GP was emphasizing the fact that it was owned by a non-US company.
rhaway84773 3y ago
The U.S. imports children. It doesn’t need to make any. And this is particularly hilarious in the context of China which has already gone beyond its demographic dividend further worsened by their one child policy. Also, the U.S. has a birth rate or 1.2, whereas China has a birth rate of 1.1 and dropping.
- foogazi 3y ago
  > The U.S. imports children. It doesn’t need to make any. For free - and it controls the knobs (immigration policy) to bring more whenever it wants too

US manufacturing is an all time high and the population is still growing. China has been below replacement levels for birth rate long enough that their population is actually shrinking.

OO000oo 3y ago
The US makes almost nothing on its own and I expect you know that, and the US population would be shrinking at a suicidal rate if not for mass human labor trafficking from the 3rd world.
howmayiannoyyou 3y ago
This is absurdly incorrect in the context of the article. As just one example - the US shuttered more than half of its ship building capacity after the Soviet Union fell. You cannot convert a foreign owned Toyota auto assembly plant into a shipyard. And, it would be nice if US economic stats made a distinction between manufacturing and assembly. A lot of what you call manufacturing is simply the low skilled combining of parts made overseas.
- mcphage 3y ago
  > You cannot convert a foreign owned Toyota auto assembly plant into a shipyard. As long as it’s in the US—yeah, you can.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    The US government coming in and forcibly taking control of a Toyota auto assembly plant located on US soil won't do anything to move it 320 miles down 65 from Huntsville, Alabama to the (gulf) coast. I'm no shipbuilder, but I get the impression that shipyards are typically near the ocean.
    - mcphage 3y ago
      Oh, if the issue at hand is because of its physical location, then you're right, although it could still manufacture parts. I thought the GP was emphasizing the fact that it was owned by a non-US company.

rhaway84773 3y ago

The U.S. imports children. It doesn’t need to make any. And this is particularly hilarious in the context of China which has already gone beyond its demographic dividend further worsened by their one child policy. Also, the U.S. has a birth rate or 1.2, whereas China has a birth rate of 1.1 and dropping.

foogazi 3y ago
> The U.S. imports children. It doesn’t need to make any. For free - and it controls the knobs (immigration policy) to bring more whenever it wants too