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Speak for yourself, I know many people who derive a lot of joy from their work and find it energizing, myself included.

wahnfrieden 3y ago
“Not all men” type argument Obviously rich people provide inspiration to many miserable workers to improve their conditions, doesn’t mean it’s achievable for most
- constantly 3y ago
  Not really. First, it’s unfair to extrapolate one persons toxic mindset to work in general. But aside from that, what I’m saying is that there are plenty of examples of people who are happy at their jobs and if one wants to be happy at their jobs they can follow those examples or use them as inspiration.
  - almost_usual 3y ago
    I’m sure there were some happy servants in the past as well.
    - constantly 3y ago
      Your weird strawman aside, servants rarely or never had the same career and life mobility as hacker news posters.
cableshaft 3y ago
I've enjoyed my work before (especially working on games I enjoyed), but I've never found it energizing. Any mentally challenging work at the end of the day has alays left me feeling pretty low energy afterwards. Also physically challenging (I remember working 10 hour days in a warehouse and then going home and having a quick bite to eat and then immediately sleeping for 10 hours, I didn't even have the energy to watch tv). Also not physically or mentally challenging jobs either (as if just having to be present and 'on' during that time is enough to drain the energy). The only times I usually still have energy to do something are in the mornings before work or on weekends, and that's pretty much when all the chores and errands and personal project work has to happen.
bluefishinit 3y ago
I think those people are typically called the "clueless": https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...
- constantly 3y ago
  “Losers” according to that, I think, as it calls “losers” “happiness seekers.” But still taking joy in one’s work seems orthogonal to the link presented, which is more about corporate lifecycles. To expand slightly on my situation (and the anecdotal others I’m talking about): I’m happy with my job because it gives me an opportunity to have a real impact on the world, helping real people, and seeing the direct results of my labor. It’s energizing.
  - lossolo 3y ago
    > opportunity to have a real impact on the world, helping real people, and seeing the direct results of my labor What do you do for a living?
- javcasas 3y ago
  No, those are the losers. The clueless are clueless that the pychopaths are using them as a shield against the losers.
darkclouds 3y ago
Are you an AVN winner then?
op00to 3y ago
Taking too much joy in anything that can be ripped from you is hazardous to your mental well being. A well rounded individual is much more resilient than someone who lives for work.
mordae 3y ago
I don't think that's relevant unless you state your age and it is well above 30. Until then you are inevitably clueless and usually sought after by the employers because you are full of energy and cheap to rent, chow and spit out when you burn out.

“Not all men” type argument Obviously rich people provide inspiration to many miserable workers to improve their conditions, doesn’t mean it’s achievable for most

constantly 3y ago
Not really. First, it’s unfair to extrapolate one persons toxic mindset to work in general. But aside from that, what I’m saying is that there are plenty of examples of people who are happy at their jobs and if one wants to be happy at their jobs they can follow those examples or use them as inspiration.
- almost_usual 3y ago
  I’m sure there were some happy servants in the past as well.
  - constantly 3y ago
    Your weird strawman aside, servants rarely or never had the same career and life mobility as hacker news posters.

cableshaft 3y ago

I've enjoyed my work before (especially working on games I enjoyed), but I've never found it energizing. Any mentally challenging work at the end of the day has alays left me feeling pretty low energy afterwards. Also physically challenging (I remember working 10 hour days in a warehouse and then going home and having a quick bite to eat and then immediately sleeping for 10 hours, I didn't even have the energy to watch tv). Also not physically or mentally challenging jobs either (as if just having to be present and 'on' during that time is enough to drain the energy). The only times I usually still have energy to do something are in the mornings before work or on weekends, and that's pretty much when all the chores and errands and personal project work has to happen.

bluefishinit 3y ago

I think those people are typically called the "clueless": https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...

constantly 3y ago
“Losers” according to that, I think, as it calls “losers” “happiness seekers.” But still taking joy in one’s work seems orthogonal to the link presented, which is more about corporate lifecycles. To expand slightly on my situation (and the anecdotal others I’m talking about): I’m happy with my job because it gives me an opportunity to have a real impact on the world, helping real people, and seeing the direct results of my labor. It’s energizing.
- lossolo 3y ago
  > opportunity to have a real impact on the world, helping real people, and seeing the direct results of my labor What do you do for a living?
javcasas 3y ago
No, those are the losers. The clueless are clueless that the pychopaths are using them as a shield against the losers.

darkclouds 3y ago

Are you an AVN winner then?

op00to 3y ago

Taking too much joy in anything that can be ripped from you is hazardous to your mental well being. A well rounded individual is much more resilient than someone who lives for work.

mordae 3y ago

I don't think that's relevant unless you state your age and it is well above 30. Until then you are inevitably clueless and usually sought after by the employers because you are full of energy and cheap to rent, chow and spit out when you burn out.