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Gaming desktops are not even close to being a standard computer configuration and you know it. I’m talking about the typical computer you’re going to find in a

Gaming desktops are not even close to being a standard computer configuration and you know it. I’m talking about the typical computer you’re going to find in a big box store or the default configuration on a website. Yes you can add an SSD yourself for that price but the markup for configuring it at purchase is considerably more than $100. I’m not talking just Apple when it comes to this, Dell, Lenovo, HP, Microsoft, and just about everyone else do it too. RAM is even worse now that many (most?) laptops have it soldered in, so there is no DIY upgrade after you buy.

cypress66 3y ago
Sorry I don't follow how this "standard" configuration is relevant. If you want more just buy more? If you don't want to pay pre-built markups build it yourself. And the point about gaming setups is very relevant because you can get consumer hardware (aka cheap), instead of being forced into "workstation/server" which carries a huge markup. You can get 128GB RAM and stupid amounts of ssd storage for cheap with consumer hardware. The hardware hasn't stagnated at all. I think you're problem is simply with pre-built markups?
- lockhouse 3y ago
  As a developer I care because that’s what my users have. As an employee I care because that’s what my employer buys for me to use at work. As the unofficial IT support person for my friends and family I care because that’s what most of them will buy and ultimately ask me to help with. Also if you want a laptop, the markups for upgrading said memory and storage are actually pretty significant and may not be worthwhile. Upgrading laptops is quickly becoming difficult to impossible. Yes I know about Framework, but they are not ever going to be mainstream for a number of reasons.
zajio1am 3y ago
> RAM is even worse now that many (most?) laptops have it soldered in, so there is no DIY upgrade after you buy. From the cursory look to an e-shop, it seems to me that majority of notebooks have soldered-in memory, but also one SIDIMM slot for expansion. Just the very low-end ones (and Apple) have no SODIMM slot. And 16 GB is definitely the most populous category of notebooks.
- wtallis 3y ago
  Look harder. LPDDR isn't for low-end laptops, it's for low-power laptops. All the major brands are using LPDDR in their thin and light systems.

cypress66 3y ago

Sorry I don't follow how this "standard" configuration is relevant. If you want more just buy more? If you don't want to pay pre-built markups build it yourself. And the point about gaming setups is very relevant because you can get consumer hardware (aka cheap), instead of being forced into "workstation/server" which carries a huge markup. You can get 128GB RAM and stupid amounts of ssd storage for cheap with consumer hardware. The hardware hasn't stagnated at all. I think you're problem is simply with pre-built markups?

lockhouse 3y ago
As a developer I care because that’s what my users have. As an employee I care because that’s what my employer buys for me to use at work. As the unofficial IT support person for my friends and family I care because that’s what most of them will buy and ultimately ask me to help with. Also if you want a laptop, the markups for upgrading said memory and storage are actually pretty significant and may not be worthwhile. Upgrading laptops is quickly becoming difficult to impossible. Yes I know about Framework, but they are not ever going to be mainstream for a number of reasons.

zajio1am 3y ago

> RAM is even worse now that many (most?) laptops have it soldered in, so there is no DIY upgrade after you buy. From the cursory look to an e-shop, it seems to me that majority of notebooks have soldered-in memory, but also one SIDIMM slot for expansion. Just the very low-end ones (and Apple) have no SODIMM slot. And 16 GB is definitely the most populous category of notebooks.

wtallis 3y ago
Look harder. LPDDR isn't for low-end laptops, it's for low-power laptops. All the major brands are using LPDDR in their thin and light systems.