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Deepgram Whisper Cloud: 3X Faster and 20% Cheaper Than OpenAI’s

3 points by tester457 3y ago

tikkun 3y ago
Nice. That does seem better (mostly because of the larger file size limit, diarization, word-level timestamps, increased speed, and hallucination and repetition reduction). I wondered what the rate limits are, looks like: > Use of Deepgram Whisper Cloud is subject to a rate limit of 50 requests per minute or 15 concurrent requests. Which is a bit disappointing. I've run into whisper rate limits. That said, Deepgram should be better still because it doesn't have the 25 MB file size limit (2 GB instead). I feel like OpenAI's Whisper API effort is a bit disappointing - it seems like a half-hearted effort. The problem with a half-hearted effort from the dominant brand is that many/most companies will still choose the half-hearted effort from the brand they know and love, which makes it harder for alternatives to get customers for a better offering, and so customers generally end up worse off. I think the two good options for OpenAI regarding Whisper API would be either: 1) Offer a Whisper API, and make it really good - lots of iteration, feature additions, service improvements or 2) Don't offer a Whisper API, tell the public you won't offer one, and encourage other companies to do so, and link out to them / refer users to those other companies Instead, they're doing 3 - half-hearted effort, which hinders overall offering quality. They could improve on their half-hearted effort either by treating it like an important product, or by pointing users to other companies for when they need more production-level features with Whisper (like they do where they point users to Pinecone and Weaviate).
- tester457 3y ago
  > Use of Deepgram Whisper Cloud is subject to a rate limit of 50 requests per minute or 15 concurrent requests. > Which is a bit disappointing. I've run into whisper rate limits. The rate limit for Deepgram's Nova speech-to-text model is 100 concurrent requests on the pay as you go plan. They claim it's more accurate than their Whisper model but I'm trying out both.
  - atajwala 3y ago
    Do we know that the concurrency limit is for their Enterprise tier?

3 points by tester457 3y ago

Nice. That does seem better (mostly because of the larger file size limit, diarization, word-level timestamps, increased speed, and hallucination and repetition reduction). I wondered what the rate limits are, looks like: > Use of Deepgram Whisper Cloud is subject to a rate limit of 50 requests per minute or 15 concurrent requests. Which is a bit disappointing. I've run into whisper rate limits. That said, Deepgram should be better still because it doesn't have the 25 MB file size limit (2 GB instead). I feel like OpenAI's Whisper API effort is a bit disappointing - it seems like a half-hearted effort. The problem with a half-hearted effort from the dominant brand is that many/most companies will still choose the half-hearted effort from the brand they know and love, which makes it harder for alternatives to get customers for a better offering, and so customers generally end up worse off. I think the two good options for OpenAI regarding Whisper API would be either: 1) Offer a Whisper API, and make it really good - lots of iteration, feature additions, service improvements or 2) Don't offer a Whisper API, tell the public you won't offer one, and encourage other companies to do so, and link out to them / refer users to those other companies Instead, they're doing 3 - half-hearted effort, which hinders overall offering quality. They could improve on their half-hearted effort either by treating it like an important product, or by pointing users to other companies for when they need more production-level features with Whisper (like they do where they point users to Pinecone and Weaviate).

tester457 3y ago
> Use of Deepgram Whisper Cloud is subject to a rate limit of 50 requests per minute or 15 concurrent requests. > Which is a bit disappointing. I've run into whisper rate limits. The rate limit for Deepgram's Nova speech-to-text model is 100 concurrent requests on the pay as you go plan. They claim it's more accurate than their Whisper model but I'm trying out both.
- atajwala 3y ago
  Do we know that the concurrency limit is for their Enterprise tier?