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Looks good. For me, the best recent feature is native compilation so Emacs feels super fast and responsive. I often use macOS and I wonder is going to GTK will

Looks good. For me, the best recent feature is native compilation so Emacs feels super fast and responsive. I often use macOS and I wonder is going to GTK will help a lot there?

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blahgeek 3y ago
Native compilation has been in emacs since 28.1. AFAIK native GTK should be unrelated to macOS since macOS version uses its own cocoa frontend
aardvark179 3y ago
As another commenter has said native compilation has been there for a while, but you may need to explicitly enable it if you’re installing via brew or similar. The macOS port doesn’t use GTK or X unless you specifically link them. What problems are you having?
ducktective 3y ago
I wonder if the latency would be comparable to neovim/vim? I've only tried Emacs without nativecomp and the really noticeable input lag left a bad impression.
- lycopodiopsida 3y ago
  As someone, who jumps between neovim and emacs on a regular basis - no, neovim is much faster. If speed and general snappiness is your most concern you should stay with neovim. But, emacs is in most cases fast enough, faster than vscode and has other advantages.
  - funcDropShadow 3y ago
    In my experience Emacs is slow when I enable evil. I do like vim keybinding, but using evil negates most of the benefits for me since it introduces unbearables pauses. That is with Doom emacs under Linux.
    - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
      They can be disabled in the init.el, I’ve done it for a year or so. Emacs-keybindings are less ergonomic, but also have less cognitive overhead imo.
    - ducktective 3y ago
      The exact setup I tested (evil+doom) but without nativecomp, same feedback
- mplanchard 3y ago
  Native compilation makes a big difference, but neovim is still snappier, especially if you’re using lots of packages or a framework like doom or whatever
- 3836293648 3y ago
  Tui emacs is a bit slower than nvim, but close enough. Gui emacs is much, much slower than nvim
bingemaker 3y ago
How do you compile Emails on OSX? I use `brew install emacs-head@30 --with-cocoa` and I feel that org-mode is bit laggy. Is there a better way?
- kstrauser 3y ago
  Add `--with-native-comp` to that.
  - bingemaker 3y ago
    Thanks, time to try this
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      Oh, I just realized I'm using https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus . I recommend using that over the default formula.
      - bingemaker 3y ago
        I use this one https://github.com/daviderestivo/homebrew-emacs-head https://github.com/daviderestivo/homebrew-emacs-head
- mediumsmart 3y ago
  download the source, unpack, cd into directory, ./autogen.sh, ./configure --with-imagemagick --with-json --with-mailutils --with-modules --with-rsvg --with-gnutls --with-xml2 --with-native-compilation=aot --with-pop --without-compress-install --without-dbus, gmake (gnumake from brew), src/emacs to test, gmake install, pickup the app in nextstep and done I think. (thats on intel monterey though)
agumonkey 3y ago
makes me wonder, is the target of native compilation something general like 386 ? can i share .eln between x86 computers ?

Looks good. For me, the best recent feature is native compilation so Emacs feels super fast and responsive. I often use macOS and I wonder is going to GTK will help a lot there?

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blahgeek 3y ago

Native compilation has been in emacs since 28.1. AFAIK native GTK should be unrelated to macOS since macOS version uses its own cocoa frontend

aardvark179 3y ago

As another commenter has said native compilation has been there for a while, but you may need to explicitly enable it if you’re installing via brew or similar. The macOS port doesn’t use GTK or X unless you specifically link them. What problems are you having?

ducktective 3y ago

I wonder if the latency would be comparable to neovim/vim? I've only tried Emacs without nativecomp and the really noticeable input lag left a bad impression.

lycopodiopsida 3y ago
As someone, who jumps between neovim and emacs on a regular basis - no, neovim is much faster. If speed and general snappiness is your most concern you should stay with neovim. But, emacs is in most cases fast enough, faster than vscode and has other advantages.
- funcDropShadow 3y ago
  In my experience Emacs is slow when I enable evil. I do like vim keybinding, but using evil negates most of the benefits for me since it introduces unbearables pauses. That is with Doom emacs under Linux.
  - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
    They can be disabled in the init.el, I’ve done it for a year or so. Emacs-keybindings are less ergonomic, but also have less cognitive overhead imo.
  - ducktective 3y ago
    The exact setup I tested (evil+doom) but without nativecomp, same feedback
mplanchard 3y ago
Native compilation makes a big difference, but neovim is still snappier, especially if you’re using lots of packages or a framework like doom or whatever
3836293648 3y ago
Tui emacs is a bit slower than nvim, but close enough. Gui emacs is much, much slower than nvim

bingemaker 3y ago

How do you compile Emails on OSX? I use `brew install emacs-head@30 --with-cocoa` and I feel that org-mode is bit laggy. Is there a better way?

kstrauser 3y ago
Add `--with-native-comp` to that.
- bingemaker 3y ago
  Thanks, time to try this
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    Oh, I just realized I'm using https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus . I recommend using that over the default formula.
    - bingemaker 3y ago
      I use this one https://github.com/daviderestivo/homebrew-emacs-head https://github.com/daviderestivo/homebrew-emacs-head
mediumsmart 3y ago
download the source, unpack, cd into directory, ./autogen.sh, ./configure --with-imagemagick --with-json --with-mailutils --with-modules --with-rsvg --with-gnutls --with-xml2 --with-native-compilation=aot --with-pop --without-compress-install --without-dbus, gmake (gnumake from brew), src/emacs to test, gmake install, pickup the app in nextstep and done I think. (thats on intel monterey though)

agumonkey 3y ago

makes me wonder, is the target of native compilation something general like 386 ? can i share .eln between x86 computers ?