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Yes Because Preview works, KPDF works and Gview behaved weird or in the wrong way most of the time Apple builds the automatic car by removing the gear shift,

Yes Because Preview works, KPDF works and Gview behaved weird or in the wrong way most of the time Apple builds the automatic car by removing the gear shift, Gnome builds it by removing the gas pedal and just having a button called "Go" which makes you go at 10mph

bombolo 3y ago
> Apple builds the automatic car by removing the gear shift Which, btw, means that you can never overtake anyone while going up, unless your engine is 2x of the power it'd need with gears.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  It means it is an automatic car, not that you're stuck in the same gear
pmontra 3y ago
Not my experience. I have a Gnome desktop that maybe a Gnome developer have a hard time to recognize as such. It works as I want and I keep the convenience of being able to Google problems and solutions of a mainstream desktop (KDE being the other one) and not a more or less obscure one. This means that under the hood, using extensions, you can customize that Gnome car. Can an Apple automatic car do that as easily?
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Extensions aren't great though. I tried using Gnome that way for a while but some extensions cause conflicts between one another and in many cases they are not updated in a timely manner when a new gnome version comes out. In contrast, KDE also supports extensions but I've never needed any because it's so configurable.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  It's good that you can do this, but most people prefer the default experience instead of fiddling with customizations to make it more special. And yes, fiddling and customizing is cool, when you have time. So between the Apple automatic and Gnome "pick customizations" I know which one I prefer (and yes Apple does have extensions, settings, etc). Yes, there won't be a perfect solution and sometimes you kinda miss some minor thing but it is minor. For example, looking at: https://extensions.gnome.org/#page=2 https://extensions.gnome.org/#page=2 there's Date and Time formatter (you can do that in Apple) and "Sound Input & Output Device Chooser" which you can do by going in settings in Apple - but it doesn't matter most of the time because the out of box experience works almost perfectly
  - pmontra 3y ago
    I do use Sound Input & Output Device Chooser. Great improvement over the default. If I'll ever buy a Mac (and I can't imagine why) I'd want to totally change its windows management and make it as close as possible to Gnome 2 and Windows XP, with virtual desktops (Gnome 2 had them.) I would probably disable all gestures except scrolling and zooming. I'd also shed tears about the lack of physical buttons on the touchpad but that starts to be about the hardware, which is off-topic.
bombolo 3y ago
Is this another comment from someone who tried linux for 20 minutes ~30 years ago and since then keeps parroting reddit comments?

bombolo 3y ago

> Apple builds the automatic car by removing the gear shift Which, btw, means that you can never overtake anyone while going up, unless your engine is 2x of the power it'd need with gears.

raverbashing 3y ago
It means it is an automatic car, not that you're stuck in the same gear

pmontra 3y ago

Not my experience. I have a Gnome desktop that maybe a Gnome developer have a hard time to recognize as such. It works as I want and I keep the convenience of being able to Google problems and solutions of a mainstream desktop (KDE being the other one) and not a more or less obscure one. This means that under the hood, using extensions, you can customize that Gnome car. Can an Apple automatic car do that as easily?

wkat4242 3y ago
Extensions aren't great though. I tried using Gnome that way for a while but some extensions cause conflicts between one another and in many cases they are not updated in a timely manner when a new gnome version comes out. In contrast, KDE also supports extensions but I've never needed any because it's so configurable.
raverbashing 3y ago
It's good that you can do this, but most people prefer the default experience instead of fiddling with customizations to make it more special. And yes, fiddling and customizing is cool, when you have time. So between the Apple automatic and Gnome "pick customizations" I know which one I prefer (and yes Apple does have extensions, settings, etc). Yes, there won't be a perfect solution and sometimes you kinda miss some minor thing but it is minor. For example, looking at: https://extensions.gnome.org/#page=2 https://extensions.gnome.org/#page=2 there's Date and Time formatter (you can do that in Apple) and "Sound Input & Output Device Chooser" which you can do by going in settings in Apple - but it doesn't matter most of the time because the out of box experience works almost perfectly
- pmontra 3y ago
  I do use Sound Input & Output Device Chooser. Great improvement over the default. If I'll ever buy a Mac (and I can't imagine why) I'd want to totally change its windows management and make it as close as possible to Gnome 2 and Windows XP, with virtual desktops (Gnome 2 had them.) I would probably disable all gestures except scrolling and zooming. I'd also shed tears about the lack of physical buttons on the touchpad but that starts to be about the hardware, which is off-topic.

bombolo 3y ago

Is this another comment from someone who tried linux for 20 minutes ~30 years ago and since then keeps parroting reddit comments?