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Most American snacks and drinks taste sickeningly sweet. The right thing to do is throw them in the bin. Eat and drink real stuff instead, with no sugar added.

Most American snacks and drinks taste sickeningly sweet. The right thing to do is throw them in the bin. Eat and drink real stuff instead, with no sugar added. Even an orange joice is naturally extremely sweet.

cyber_kinetist 3y ago
Note that the reason fruits nowadays are so sweet is because of artificial selection done over millenia - fruits thousands of years ago barely resembled the fruits that we eat today. [0] "Natural" fruit was originally absolute shit for human consumption, so humans have cultivated it until it became abnormally large and rich with sugars. (And orange juice is no more healthier than other competing sugar-fueled junk foods - they all have the dangerously high diabetes-inducing sugar content, and it's not good for your health!) Don't care if we're using the good-old "manual pollination" technique or high-tech genetic modification - the fact that the crops we eat has been modified extensively until it doesn't resemble the original has been true for the whole existence of human civilization. Nowadays what people call natural "real" food is just a simulacra - a copy of a real thing that doesn't exist anymore. I think people should be more willing to accept this reality if we're going to survive the Anthropocene (with all that climate change jazz) - we as a species have always changed and terraformed Earth and its various flora/fauna throughout millenia, and there is no going back to its original "real" state anymore. [0] https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/10/infographic-the-drastic-evolution-of-fruits-and-vegetables https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/10/infographic-the-drastic...
- fragmede 3y ago
  After humanity dies off or is moribund from the catastrophic effects of global warming, Earth, and its various remaining flora/fauna will revert back to a more natural state, until, after a millennia of healing, it gets unperverted by humanity's touch, and grain and fruit is once again, terrible for human consumption. Which would matter, if there were humans left.
  - sacnoradhq 3y ago
    Suicide and omnicide are for the death cult fatalists and the terrorists. Everyone else I know wants to change things and live.
- TylerE 3y ago
  Sugar is where the body gets energy. Obviously people growing crops for food favor crops that provide the same amount of energy for less work and land.
XorNot 3y ago
Orange juice has the exact same amount of sugar as coke, volume for volume. Juice is not a healthy choice in anyway that really matters and you will get diabetes from it.
- sacnoradhq 3y ago
  Look again. OJ has more calories per unit volume. 13.75 kcal / oz vs. 11.66.
- navigate8310 3y ago
  Are you talking about home pressed orange juice or the tetrapaks?
  - XorNot 3y ago
    Both. Doesn't matter how you make it: juice is pure sugar.
koonsolo 3y ago
The Europeans that I know that moved to US always complain about the bread. They can't find any decent bread that isn't sweetened.
- mgaunard 3y ago
  Bread is flour, yeast and water. If you add sugar it's brioche.

cyber_kinetist 3y ago

Note that the reason fruits nowadays are so sweet is because of artificial selection done over millenia - fruits thousands of years ago barely resembled the fruits that we eat today. [0] "Natural" fruit was originally absolute shit for human consumption, so humans have cultivated it until it became abnormally large and rich with sugars. (And orange juice is no more healthier than other competing sugar-fueled junk foods - they all have the dangerously high diabetes-inducing sugar content, and it's not good for your health!) Don't care if we're using the good-old "manual pollination" technique or high-tech genetic modification - the fact that the crops we eat has been modified extensively until it doesn't resemble the original has been true for the whole existence of human civilization. Nowadays what people call natural "real" food is just a simulacra - a copy of a real thing that doesn't exist anymore. I think people should be more willing to accept this reality if we're going to survive the Anthropocene (with all that climate change jazz) - we as a species have always changed and terraformed Earth and its various flora/fauna throughout millenia, and there is no going back to its original "real" state anymore. [0] https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/10/infographic-the-drastic-evolution-of-fruits-and-vegetables https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2014/10/infographic-the-drastic...

fragmede 3y ago
After humanity dies off or is moribund from the catastrophic effects of global warming, Earth, and its various remaining flora/fauna will revert back to a more natural state, until, after a millennia of healing, it gets unperverted by humanity's touch, and grain and fruit is once again, terrible for human consumption. Which would matter, if there were humans left.
- sacnoradhq 3y ago
  Suicide and omnicide are for the death cult fatalists and the terrorists. Everyone else I know wants to change things and live.
TylerE 3y ago
Sugar is where the body gets energy. Obviously people growing crops for food favor crops that provide the same amount of energy for less work and land.

XorNot 3y ago

Orange juice has the exact same amount of sugar as coke, volume for volume. Juice is not a healthy choice in anyway that really matters and you will get diabetes from it.

sacnoradhq 3y ago
Look again. OJ has more calories per unit volume. 13.75 kcal / oz vs. 11.66.
navigate8310 3y ago
Are you talking about home pressed orange juice or the tetrapaks?
- XorNot 3y ago
  Both. Doesn't matter how you make it: juice is pure sugar.

koonsolo 3y ago

The Europeans that I know that moved to US always complain about the bread. They can't find any decent bread that isn't sweetened.

mgaunard 3y ago
Bread is flour, yeast and water. If you add sugar it's brioche.