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In summary; - Sweet protein, 3000x sweeter than sugar - Same texture/consistency as sugar. - Can be baked (modified to be temperature stable) - Unlikely to

In summary; - Sweet protein, 3000x sweeter than sugar - Same texture/consistency as sugar. - Can be baked (modified to be temperature stable) - Unlikely to affect insulin and gut flora. - Breaks down into common amino acids. - Produced through fermentation (cheap & scalable). - Indistinguishable taste profile compared to sugar (according to taste experts) - May be on the market 2023 (if approved) Here, take all my money!!

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Also probably doesn’t damage dna like sucralose/Splenda. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10937404.2023.2213903 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10937404.2023.2...
darkclouds 3y ago
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- leafario2 3y ago
  It's not about stronger flavour, it's about a replacement for sugar which does not cause diseases
  - tmikaeld 3y ago
    It seems a coke-sized can, requires only 13mg of this protein, compared to 200mg of aspartame. If brands see that increasing the amount also increase sales without increasing the risk - they're likely to do that - which could numb the sweetness of anything else.
    - safety1st 3y ago
      These are both very small amounts of a substance, relative to the size of a Coke can. I think if Coke wanted a sweeter formula, bumping up to 250-300mg of aspartame or using a blend of existing additives or something would not be a problem for them. Given how sensitive consumers are to changes in its taste, I think the overriding concern for Coke would be not changing the flavor of the formula.
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    - mpalmer 3y ago
      If what you say is true, wouldn't we already be seeing incredibly sweet things being sold? I don't see why companies would hold back from producing very sweet products with high sugar content; they do so already. I'm not sure anyone's clamoring for sweeter drinks. Non-diet drinks like Coke have an established recipe, and diet sodas approximate the same balance of flavors.
      - mypetocean 3y ago
        I think there is some level of hardwiring limiting the palatability of sweetness, at least in some people. Anecdotally, even as a kid, I found Skittles to be unpleasantly sweet. To this day, I avoid most sweet soda drinks and seldom drink even those I can tolerate. It is not discipline for me. It is not even taste. It is tolerance.
- Narretz 3y ago
  Dogs must have a very different base line. They don't think "ew mold", they think "aw yes, mold" because it's normal to them.
  - chmod775 3y ago
    Moldy sticks are the best because they come apart when chewing on them! My brother has a young (but large) dog who is still trying to taste everything. Yesterday he was excavating and devouring(?) some tree roots with great enthusiasm. At least it distracted him from wanting to chase moles and deers. Also his treats smell abysmal, but obviously he likes them.
- koonsolo 3y ago
  Doesn't sound like something I want at all.
- JackMorgan 3y ago
  As someone else with an unusually strong sense of smell, I offer my condolences. I'm lucky that I don't really mind the smell of mold, or other natural scents like body odor. For me the gross smells are artificial fragrances like soap, deodorant, cologne/perfume, and dish soap. I don't love car exhaust. Dish soap especially smells _so gross_. It's just so chemically and strong. I do find dish sponges left out start to smell like mold to the extent that it makes it hard to use. That's why washing dishes is rough, I get mold from the sponge and chemicals from the soap. I do think though it's just genetic. Also I think dogs don't smell bitter scents as strongly as we do (it's how they can eat feces). So mold might not be as gross for them.
  - darkclouds 3y ago
    > For me the gross smells are artificial fragrances like soap, deodorant, cologne/perfume, and dish soap. Its meta data on peoples health. Look at long covid and the loss of smell. Symptoms indicating what people are missing out on dietary wise in order to improve their health. Thats why I say Covid was a biological weapon, and there are plenty of people who know what they know, but they dont know what they know... > I think dogs don't smell bitter scents as strongly as we do (it's how they can eat feces) Coprophagy and bacterial analysis studies suggest there may be a need for certain vitamins, namely vit K.
ksec 3y ago
>Here, take all my money!! Yes, except when something is too good to be true I tends to be very skeptical of it. While it would great if FDA approves it, I generally take the EU perspective in terms of Food Safety. At the same time I am also wondering, if this works, may be it is time to tax Sugar?
- ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
  Multiple countries already tax soft drinks containing sugar.
joker_minmax 3y ago
If it's 3000 times sweeter, you still have to modify your usage of it in a recipe, even if the texture is the same. So your end product might have a different texture because of that quantity difference during the substitution.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

Also probably doesn’t damage dna like sucralose/Splenda. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10937404.2023.2213903 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10937404.2023.2...

darkclouds 3y ago

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leafario2 3y ago
It's not about stronger flavour, it's about a replacement for sugar which does not cause diseases
- tmikaeld 3y ago
  It seems a coke-sized can, requires only 13mg of this protein, compared to 200mg of aspartame. If brands see that increasing the amount also increase sales without increasing the risk - they're likely to do that - which could numb the sweetness of anything else.
  - safety1st 3y ago
    These are both very small amounts of a substance, relative to the size of a Coke can. I think if Coke wanted a sweeter formula, bumping up to 250-300mg of aspartame or using a blend of existing additives or something would not be a problem for them. Given how sensitive consumers are to changes in its taste, I think the overriding concern for Coke would be not changing the flavor of the formula.
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  - mpalmer 3y ago
    If what you say is true, wouldn't we already be seeing incredibly sweet things being sold? I don't see why companies would hold back from producing very sweet products with high sugar content; they do so already. I'm not sure anyone's clamoring for sweeter drinks. Non-diet drinks like Coke have an established recipe, and diet sodas approximate the same balance of flavors.
    - mypetocean 3y ago
      I think there is some level of hardwiring limiting the palatability of sweetness, at least in some people. Anecdotally, even as a kid, I found Skittles to be unpleasantly sweet. To this day, I avoid most sweet soda drinks and seldom drink even those I can tolerate. It is not discipline for me. It is not even taste. It is tolerance.
Narretz 3y ago
Dogs must have a very different base line. They don't think "ew mold", they think "aw yes, mold" because it's normal to them.
- chmod775 3y ago
  Moldy sticks are the best because they come apart when chewing on them! My brother has a young (but large) dog who is still trying to taste everything. Yesterday he was excavating and devouring(?) some tree roots with great enthusiasm. At least it distracted him from wanting to chase moles and deers. Also his treats smell abysmal, but obviously he likes them.
koonsolo 3y ago
Doesn't sound like something I want at all.
JackMorgan 3y ago
As someone else with an unusually strong sense of smell, I offer my condolences. I'm lucky that I don't really mind the smell of mold, or other natural scents like body odor. For me the gross smells are artificial fragrances like soap, deodorant, cologne/perfume, and dish soap. I don't love car exhaust. Dish soap especially smells _so gross_. It's just so chemically and strong. I do find dish sponges left out start to smell like mold to the extent that it makes it hard to use. That's why washing dishes is rough, I get mold from the sponge and chemicals from the soap. I do think though it's just genetic. Also I think dogs don't smell bitter scents as strongly as we do (it's how they can eat feces). So mold might not be as gross for them.
- darkclouds 3y ago
  > For me the gross smells are artificial fragrances like soap, deodorant, cologne/perfume, and dish soap. Its meta data on peoples health. Look at long covid and the loss of smell. Symptoms indicating what people are missing out on dietary wise in order to improve their health. Thats why I say Covid was a biological weapon, and there are plenty of people who know what they know, but they dont know what they know... > I think dogs don't smell bitter scents as strongly as we do (it's how they can eat feces) Coprophagy and bacterial analysis studies suggest there may be a need for certain vitamins, namely vit K.

ksec 3y ago

>Here, take all my money!! Yes, except when something is too good to be true I tends to be very skeptical of it. While it would great if FDA approves it, I generally take the EU perspective in terms of Food Safety. At the same time I am also wondering, if this works, may be it is time to tax Sugar?

ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
Multiple countries already tax soft drinks containing sugar.

joker_minmax 3y ago

If it's 3000 times sweeter, you still have to modify your usage of it in a recipe, even if the texture is the same. So your end product might have a different texture because of that quantity difference during the substitution.