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You are already responsible for whatever your car is doing, regardless of how it is driven. What additional regulation we need?

fyolnish 3y ago
Regulation making you responsible for reckless behavior before you cause an accident.
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- happytiger 3y ago
  We have that. Drivers are responsible for the outcomes of their driving with licenses, insurance, a legal framework for operating vehicles, and even uniform enforcement. What else would you add? Adding a technical stack will lead to court cases but our current system can accomodate — we already have tons of driving modifying systems in cars and nobody blinks an eye. The only reason this is even controversial is that it’s third party and not provided by the manufacturer. I would suggest that we are good! The current regulatory compliance and enforcement system can accommodate this change.
  - incongruity 3y ago
    The biggest question I see is insurance coverage. I could imagine insurers moving to not cover accidents during the use of aftermarket systems like this in the same way they won’t cover incidents during track use and the like.
  - yardstick 3y ago
    Why bother with drink driving rules if we already have laws against reckless driving? Is it not fundamentally the same? If not why not?
threeseed 3y ago
I described some of the regulation we need. People buying these devices are simply ill-informed about the risks that they pose to other drivers and pedestrians because companies like Comma deliberately withhold the information. And given innocent lives are at stake the onus should be on being cautious about technologies like these until they are proven.
- razemio 3y ago
  You are right, they are not informing you during the buy process on their website but there is a tutorial you have to follow interactively, which makes a 100% sure you understand the risks and limitations. It is not like Tesla at all.
chrisjj 3y ago
If responsibility substituted for regulation, there'd be no car regulation at all, would there?

fyolnish 3y ago

Regulation making you responsible for reckless behavior before you cause an accident.

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happytiger 3y ago
We have that. Drivers are responsible for the outcomes of their driving with licenses, insurance, a legal framework for operating vehicles, and even uniform enforcement. What else would you add? Adding a technical stack will lead to court cases but our current system can accomodate — we already have tons of driving modifying systems in cars and nobody blinks an eye. The only reason this is even controversial is that it’s third party and not provided by the manufacturer. I would suggest that we are good! The current regulatory compliance and enforcement system can accommodate this change.
- incongruity 3y ago
  The biggest question I see is insurance coverage. I could imagine insurers moving to not cover accidents during the use of aftermarket systems like this in the same way they won’t cover incidents during track use and the like.
- yardstick 3y ago
  Why bother with drink driving rules if we already have laws against reckless driving? Is it not fundamentally the same? If not why not?

threeseed 3y ago

I described some of the regulation we need. People buying these devices are simply ill-informed about the risks that they pose to other drivers and pedestrians because companies like Comma deliberately withhold the information. And given innocent lives are at stake the onus should be on being cautious about technologies like these until they are proven.

razemio 3y ago
You are right, they are not informing you during the buy process on their website but there is a tutorial you have to follow interactively, which makes a 100% sure you understand the risks and limitations. It is not like Tesla at all.

chrisjj 3y ago

If responsibility substituted for regulation, there'd be no car regulation at all, would there?