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I mountaineer too, it's just a chore to walk with groceries, esp. if the weather is bad and you have to do it every 3 days given how little one can carry. I th

by sershe 3y ago

I mountaineer too, it's just a chore to walk with groceries, esp. if the weather is bad and you have to do it every 3 days given how little one can carry. I think I mentioned the drinking aspect in the original comment. I could do all of these things by car, probably faster too... except drinking. So I guess it depends on how often one drinks :)

maxbond 3y ago
The paper bags they give you are terrible, they're barely fit to walk to the car with. They always fall apart on the walk home, and the ergonomics suck too. But with any reasonable bag I find it's not a big deal.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  I'm of the impression paper bags are not meant to be carried. As long as I've been alive, they always break. I suspect they're simply supposed to be a bundling device so you can stack them for loading in one of those foldable vertical bring-your-own-grocery-cart like old ladies in urban areas use. They certainly can't carry all that crap in-hand either, but this is the only way I've seen paper-bagged groceries make it more than a block without drama.
- wizofaus 3y ago
  Are paper bags for groceries a thing in any country other than the US?
atchoo 3y ago
As a mountaineer, you no doubt have a wonderfully ergonomic high volume backpack that is great for a week of shopping. Two if your diet is basic meat and veg not processed food in lots of packaging. Same to the OP. You should own a decent feckin' shopping bag. It's basic adulting where I live. You have observed the problem yet not doing anything about which is just really weird.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >You have observed the problem yet not doing anything about which is just really weird. They observed the problem and simply have a different solution than you. I'm sure there's a number of other factors they didn't mention that make it preferable to simply use their perfectly working car.
  - sgu999 3y ago
    > I'm sure there's a number of other factors they didn't mention that make it preferable to simply use their perfectly working car. I'm sorry but when one is willing to put that much effort to try to justify using a car to avoid a 10 mn walk, that's only because one is way too lazy and privileged...
    - sershe 3y ago
      You treat the walk as the default and car as something that needs to be justified. That's BS. I think you are too privileged to live in a safe neighborhood, in good climate, to be healthy enough to walk with load, and to own a good backpack :P To me car is the default solution, it's simply better in every way for most people. Making one's life better doesn't need to be "justified".
      - spost 3y ago
        > You treat the walk as the default Is it unreasonable to treat “moving around with your body” as the default vs “moving around in a $x,000-x00,000 device”?
        sershe 3y ago
        It is! Just like not having surgery, not using AC/heating, or not wearing glasses, etc. All those things are unnatural and some are expensive, but luckily we are not hunter-gatherers anymore ;)
    - johnnyanmac 3y ago
elliottkember 3y ago
> I mountaineer too, it's just a chore to walk with groceries

by sershe 3y ago

maxbond 3y ago

The paper bags they give you are terrible, they're barely fit to walk to the car with. They always fall apart on the walk home, and the ergonomics suck too. But with any reasonable bag I find it's not a big deal.

jstarfish 3y ago
I'm of the impression paper bags are not meant to be carried. As long as I've been alive, they always break. I suspect they're simply supposed to be a bundling device so you can stack them for loading in one of those foldable vertical bring-your-own-grocery-cart like old ladies in urban areas use. They certainly can't carry all that crap in-hand either, but this is the only way I've seen paper-bagged groceries make it more than a block without drama.
wizofaus 3y ago
Are paper bags for groceries a thing in any country other than the US?

atchoo 3y ago

As a mountaineer, you no doubt have a wonderfully ergonomic high volume backpack that is great for a week of shopping. Two if your diet is basic meat and veg not processed food in lots of packaging. Same to the OP. You should own a decent feckin' shopping bag. It's basic adulting where I live. You have observed the problem yet not doing anything about which is just really weird.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
>You have observed the problem yet not doing anything about which is just really weird. They observed the problem and simply have a different solution than you. I'm sure there's a number of other factors they didn't mention that make it preferable to simply use their perfectly working car.
- sgu999 3y ago
  > I'm sure there's a number of other factors they didn't mention that make it preferable to simply use their perfectly working car. I'm sorry but when one is willing to put that much effort to try to justify using a car to avoid a 10 mn walk, that's only because one is way too lazy and privileged...
  - sershe 3y ago
    You treat the walk as the default and car as something that needs to be justified. That's BS. I think you are too privileged to live in a safe neighborhood, in good climate, to be healthy enough to walk with load, and to own a good backpack :P To me car is the default solution, it's simply better in every way for most people. Making one's life better doesn't need to be "justified".
    - spost 3y ago
      > You treat the walk as the default Is it unreasonable to treat “moving around with your body” as the default vs “moving around in a $x,000-x00,000 device”?
      - sershe 3y ago
        It is! Just like not having surgery, not using AC/heating, or not wearing glasses, etc. All those things are unnatural and some are expensive, but luckily we are not hunter-gatherers anymore ;)
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago

elliottkember 3y ago

> I mountaineer too, it's just a chore to walk with groceries