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Yes, a 'collapse' is inevitable. But you seem to be suggesting that it will go on 'collapsing', is that not correct? (Please correct me if my assumption is wron
by oska 3y ago
Yes, a 'collapse' is inevitable. But you seem to be suggesting that it will go on 'collapsing', is that not correct? (Please correct me if my assumption is wrong.) Populations do not keep collapsing to zero; at some point the decline is reversed.
And a population 'collapse' is not necessarily bad for a country or a region in the long term. Indeed it can be rejuvenating in the long term. Europe suffered a massive population 'collapse' after the Black Death pandemics. This had the long term effect of making peasants' labour more valuable which ultimately led to the Industrial Revolution and the rise of a Middle Class.
- famouswaffles 3y agoI never said anything about collapsing to zero. And raw population numbers are the least of the problems here. The comparison to the Black Death is rather silly.
- oska 3y ago> The comparison to the Black Death is rather silly. Why? It's a very well explored and prominent example of a population 'collapse' leading to long term rejuvenation (and innovation). I'm not pretending that some of the short term to medium term consequences of a population 'collapse' (I keep putting it in quotes because it's your word and I think it's too emotive) won't be dire. But at some point a population has to go through a period of decline. We see this all the time in the natural world. People who don't want to have any periods of decline and go all Chicken Little with emotive talk of 'collapse' and worse for any period of population decline seem to want to exist in a fantasy world, in my opinion, of endless upwards growth. Not the real world, where, to slightly belabour a point, animal populations go through cycles of growth and decline, repeatedly.