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The drama does give it kind of a cold fusion vibe. But the motivation of the "industry guy" is pretty text book. If you wanted to scam your way into a Nobel Pr
by ChuckMcM 3y ago
The drama does give it kind of a cold fusion vibe. But the motivation of the "industry guy" is pretty text book. If you wanted to scam your way into a Nobel Prize this might be a way to do it right? Still I don't think the Nobel committee would buy it but who knows right?
Going to be really an interesting August and even if it doesn't pan out to be "superconducting" the theory is one that leads to more structural investigations into crystal structures that "might".
- pfdietz 3y agoThe Nobel Prize committee would do nothing unless this was well confirmed. There is no "scamming them".
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoMight want to ask Rosalind Franklin about that (you’ll need a ouija board).
- readthenotes1 3y ago[flagged]
- dredmorbius 3y agoNobels are not awarded posthumously.
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoI'm sure that's the only reason. I have a friend that worked for years at CSH. Watson is an ... interesting ... chap. Good at bringing in the money, though. It's amazing how we can be quite forgiving of people that make money. Maybe there's an [ig] Nobel prize for me, if I can figure out why.
- dredmorbius 3y agoRather than skirting around the issue with vague insinuations, how about if you commit to a specific reason why the Nobel Committee would violate its proscription on posthumous awards, in this specific case?
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y agoNah, I'm fine with the vague insinuations. Have a great day!
- CamperBob2 3y agoThere are countless examples of people who clearly deserved to win or share a Nobel but were overlooked by the committee. But can anyone think of a hard-science laureate who arguably should not have won? Note the "hard science" qualification -- obviously the Peace and Literature prizes have a controversial history, but disregard those for the moment.
- lucubratory 3y agoI mean, the most obvious would be António Egas Moniz. His discovery that got him the Nobel for Medicine both didn't work and caused so much preventable illness, injury, and death that it is actually banned in many countries.
- maxweylandt 3y agoFor those who don't know: lobotomy
- dredmorbius 3y agoI can think of a few in the Sveriges Riksbank Prize category. Most recently, Nordhaus, whose work on which the award was based is an absolute travesty. As with the Peace Prize, the nominations and selection are strongly political.
- ls612 3y agoWhat pray tell are your objections to the economic theory behind the DICE models?
- dredmorbius 3y agoSee Steve Keen, e.g.: <https://evonomics.com/steve-keen-nordhaus-climate-change-economics/ https://evonomics.com/steve-keen-nordhaus-climate-change-eco...> Bad maths modeling, insipid correlative relation, ignoring of tipping points, etc., etc.
- adw 3y agoOr Jocelyn Bell Burnell (who is alive; that was a truly outrageous piece of theft.)
- treesciencebot 3y agoThis reminds me an amazing piece of documentary[1] I've watched a couple months prior about a man who tried to "scam his way onto a Nobel prize". It really goes into showing how the majority of the system is based on trust and reputation and without well skepticism fraudsters can thrive. [1]: "The man who almost faked his way to a Nobel Prize" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDoml-Db64&list=PLAB-wWbHL7Vsfl4PoQpNsGp61xaDDiZmh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDoml-Db64&list=PLAB-wWbHL7...
- dredmorbius 3y agoSome prize categories are more readily scammed than others. (Though I'm not aware of any poorly-supported hard-science Nobels to date.)
- mlyle 3y agoThey're not talking about scamming them based on false research; we're talking about making a play to be recognized as an author/inventor when you didn't deserve it. It's not going to work here, but similar efforts have confused attribution in the past.
- hgomersall 3y agoI don't know, it has been happening for years in economics.